Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #67892
From: Colyn Case <colyncase@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: TBM CRASH -ICING TEB - what would you do?
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 15:35:25 -0500
To: Lancair Mailing List <lml@lancaironline.net>
I have TKS on my cessna TR182.
If I put it on max 5-10 minutes before entering ice the wings will stay clean except for a thing strip right on the leading edge.   I've been in moderate, although not for long.  Currently trying to debug the flow on the struts (not enough).

Colyn

On Nov 8, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Todd Long wrote:

For those that have either TKS or thermawing on their airplanes have you ever been in anything more than trace or  light icing? If so how did the system and the airplane perform?

The key with boots or any system that cycles if you're not able to regain some of the airspeed loss that occurred before the boots cycled it's time to go down.

Typing and grammar errors courtesy of Siri and the iPhone.

On Nov 8, 2013, at 13:37, Colyn Case <colyncase@earthlink.net> wrote:

splitting this thread from John's.
good tape.   What would you have done and when?
It's a turbine with tons of climb power and boots and you've seen moderate ice before.

a) stayed below IMC
b) not entered IMC until you were guaranteed a continuous climb to fl200
c) accept clearance as given accident pilot and then violate clearance and continue climbing once icing got beyond light, declare emergency 
d) descend as soon as you saw ice
e) something else

Colyn

On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:31 AM, PETER WILLIAMS wrote:

HI THERE

i came across this AOPA report on a TBM that crashed 17 minutes after taking off from TETERBORO

i remember the news report.

in many ways a TBM performance envelop is similar to our LNC4; admittedly not many Lancair aircraft 
have full de-ice equipment, but we could easily find ourselves in a similar situation.

FIVE MINUTES INTO THE ICING, and the plane is out of control

http://www.aopa.org/AOPA-Live.aspx?watch=9CC22A1C-9960-43A5-AC03-3757498BE36C&WT.mc_sect=tts&WT.mc_id=131108epilot

it is hard to stay vigilant, but that is how we get to be old pilots


peter


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