Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #67891
From: George Wehrung <gw5@me.com>
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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: TBM CRASH -ICING TEB - what would you do?
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2013 15:24:24 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
When going into questionable WX I would have called to get a good weather brief. They always go over Pireps and what the weather is doing.  While on the phone with them I generally have ADDS up looking at the progs, AIRMETS, and SIGMETS.  

I would like to think I would have altered my route or delayed once seeing how vast that icing coverage was. I also think I might have considered staying low until I could climb above that mess.  It's one thing to go into known icing when it's light.  But even in the mighty King Air that is certified for known icing I get worried when I hear moderate and look at other options.  

I have been in my share of icing in various planes  in particular, I don't like the sound of a base ball bat hitting the fuselage when the props are slinging ice.  

But, then again, this is not a discussion in our little ES.



Sent from my iPad

On Nov 8, 2013, at 14:37, Colyn Case <colyncase@earthlink.net> wrote:

splitting this thread from John's.
good tape.   What would you have done and when?
It's a turbine with tons of climb power and boots and you've seen moderate ice before.

a) stayed below IMC
b) not entered IMC until you were guaranteed a continuous climb to fl200
c) accept clearance as given accident pilot and then violate clearance and continue climbing once icing got beyond light, declare emergency 
d) descend as soon as you saw ice
e) something else

Colyn

On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:31 AM, PETER WILLIAMS wrote:

HI THERE

i came across this AOPA report on a TBM that crashed 17 minutes after taking off from TETERBORO

i remember the news report.

in many ways a TBM performance envelop is similar to our LNC4; admittedly not many Lancair aircraft 
have full de-ice equipment, but we could easily find ourselves in a similar situation.

FIVE MINUTES INTO THE ICING, and the plane is out of control

http://www.aopa.org/AOPA-Live.aspx?watch=9CC22A1C-9960-43A5-AC03-3757498BE36C&WT.mc_sect=tts&WT.mc_id=131108epilot

it is hard to stay vigilant, but that is how we get to be old pilots


peter

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