Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #28575
From: Monty Roberts <montyr2157@alltel.net>
Subject: Heat Exchangers
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:57:07 -0600
To: <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sounds like plenty of core area to me Monty. 
 
Thought I had made my final decision on the oil cooler but still having trouble getting all my design goals to work with the fluidyne cooler.  Those darn evap cores are hard to beat for weight, performance & size.  I'm back to figuring out a way to make the evap core reliable in oil cooler service. 
 
Rusty is the resident expert on failures on these things so a couple of questions for him. 
Were the connections on the end tanks welded on?   I'm wondering if the heat may have weakened the furnace brazed joints there since the failures were always on the ends (I think).  I noticed there is an aluminum strap welded to the end tanks from top to bottom on some Harris cores.  Did yours have this?  I am wondering if they are to resist the expansion force trying to split the tank segments apart.
 
I have built a test evap core cooler with bonded plates on the ends tied together with threaded rod.  This serves two purposes.  It resists the expansion forces and provides a thicker plate to drill & tap for AN fittings (no welding required).  Even with all the added hardware it only weighs 5 1/2 lbs.  The Fluidyne I was looking at was 12 lbs (and still would not fit in the space available).  Weight is so important to me that I place a value of $100 per pound on weight savings.  For example, the 12 pounds I saved with aluminum landing gear cost an extra $1200.00.
 
This may turn out to be a total waste of time in which case I will need a custom cooler.  Ed K., what is the maximum core thickness that you can get for oil coolers?
 
Tracy
 
 
Tracy,
 
The flluidyne coolers I am looking at using are plate type furnace brazed units. They are rated at 150 psi. The Earl's coolers are a bit more expensive and are rated at 175 psi with burst at 350 psi. The 3rd gen RX7 is a plate type oil cooler. They all seem to be made the same way as the evap cores. Evap cores can see some pretty high pressures in service. I don't see why they couldn't work. Looks like we need to do a failure analysis on Rusty's core. How was it mounted? Did the plumbing exert any forces on the cooler? Perhaps weld two more aluminum straps to the tanks to help them resist pressure forces.
 
Trying to decide if the stock oil cooler volume is enough. If so I can get by with the Earl's 3 in tall cooler vs the 4 in tall fluidyne. They cost the same, but if you guys think that the stock cooler is marginal I may just go with the extra capacity of the Fluidyne. I am partial to Earl's products from a trust standpoint even though I know the Winston cup guys use Fluidyne coolers for trans and diff. 
 
Monty
 
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