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Kevin,
Yes, I agree. He pulled his wing up into a stall-angle -- because he did not have or did not use an AOA -angle of attack indicator.
An AOA indicator PRIMARILY shows a pilot -- instantly, eye-to-hand -- how close he himself is pitching his wing -- to its stall angle.
Speed has nothing to do with that; a wing stalls at an ANGLE.
The FAA is STILL not requiring training using AOAs -- fifty (50) years after the US Navy put them on every carrier-based aircraft.
What was the result of using AOAs on landings by the excellent Navy pilots' accident rate?
It cut landing accidents fifty (50) percent in the very first year!
Unintentional stalls cause about a quarter to a third of all general aviation fatalities every year.
The FAA is a stubborn, slow learner, imho.
It is so sad to lose the wonderful pilots and their friends and families, and their beautiful flying machines .. needlessly.
Terrence O'Neill
4 yeas a Navy pilot.
I designed, built and flight tested and major-modified and flight tested six original aircraft, using my own-design of a simple AOA vane... so I could SEE how close I was flying my wings to their fixed stall AOA.
Have published magazine articles ranting on the same need for 50 years ... but pilots seem to be locked into thinking programmed by their first FAA-dictated flight training.
On Jan 27, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Kevin Stallard wrote:
> Hi Bill,
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> If I may respectfully (emphasis on respectfully) disagree.
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> It wasn't .the controller that put the plane in a bank and pulled up. Was the controller confusing? Yep, no doubt. I have to honestly say that as soon as I heard 'no' and something about extending the downwind, I would have had the inclination of turning left as well.
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> I would say that part of the confusion was from the pilot not following directions in the first place. If he had been on downwind as the controller was expecting him too...what would have happened? Who knows...
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> In any case, the final analysis is that the pilot did something with his airplane that caused it to spin.
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> Real sad.....
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> Kevin
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> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:11 AM
> To: lml@lancaironline.net
> Subject: [LML] Re: LOBO eNews -- January 2014
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> The lesson here is who is going to be at fault when an accident occurs. The controller cleared the Cirrus to land. He didn’t clear him number two after the other Cirrus. He also cleared him to land long, so it was perfectly logical for the pilot to turn base immediately. Sure, he would probably have lived if he had turned right and landed long and the other Cirrus had landed on the numbers, but he didn’t have the other plane in sight and didn’t know where he was so he tried to climb and turn away from the airport and in his panic, did so too aggressively.
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> The controller was the total cause of the accident but everything in the piece turns it back to the pilot.
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> Just keep in mind that your pilot license is in the hands of the controller, but your LIFE is in YOUR hands!
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> Bill
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