Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #53390
From: Bill Wade <super_chipmunk@roadrunner.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: L-IVP Battery Cooling
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:21:06 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Re: L-IVP Battery Cooling
Hi Colin-
            Your earlier post indicated that you were not going to protect against starter loads so that leaves the rest of the electrical system.
 
  I may be missing something but I don't understand how a fuse between the cable and the power buss(es) would provide protection. Given the variable nature of the loads, particularly the inrush current each time the hydraulic pump starts up or a landing light is turned on, how would you size it? It would have to be sufficient to handle every device operating at once plus some additional capacity to prevent the fuse blowing inadvertantly.
 
  I generally operate with a number of circuits turned off. For example, I don't use cockpit, nav and landing lights during the day. (The landing lights are retracted except at low speed). I don't use pitot heat VFR. Under those conditions would there be enough additional sustained current from a given short, particularly one of the small gauge wires that are most numerous, to cause the fuse to blow? I agree that an electrical fire is something to be avoided. I think the liberal use of heat shrink and careful mechanical installation are a good defense. I cover the shanks of battery and other uninsulated terminal lugs with heat shrink to reduce exposure.
 
  Incidentally, the stuck PTT switch I experienced was due to the switch terminals getting pushed together and shorting out. The avionics shop hadn't put heat shrink on each terminal, just over the whole assembly. I covered each one on the replacement. It seems to me that the odds of a loose wire shorting against the cables would be enhanced by the ANL fuse and holder. It would require two extra terminal lugs, also the holder's terminal posts and the exposed areas of the fuse itself are vulnerable. A solid cable would have continuous insulation.
 
 Speaking of Nuckolls, a quick glance at his diagrams shows no fuses on any battery leads.
 
  One difficulty I thought of with remote battery installation is with a pressurized model. Those cables would have to penetrate the firewall and I'm not sure what a good method might be for sealing them. That would be one advantage of the firewall mounted battery.  -Bill Wade
 
 
 ----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 5:39 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: L-IVP Battery Cooling

The Bob Nuckolls wisdom on this is that some voltage drop is okay for a starting system.
I'm only repeating that not endorsing it.
(Caveat, if you have a full feathering prop and would like to air restart after feathering, it takes 20-30 seconds of vigorous
cranking under nasty cold conditions to get it out of feather.   Voltage, and cold cranking amps helpful here)
 
That doesn't worry me nearly so much as high current unprotected wires in the cockpit, at least when not in starting mode.
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