The point of the argument is that you have to be able to
recognize a stall when it is happening before it develops fully and the
airplane rolls over, which it will if you don’t do anything, and will
require about 1000 feet of recovery altitude. This takes about 3-4
seconds from air separation off the wings to loss of lift off one of them
and roll. This is actually a long time when you’re flying.
The response is simple and the same in all cases: Move the stick forward.
So the final point is this: you must train your brain to automatically
move the stick forward when it feels a stall happening. A little practice
accomplishes this easily. (yes is can be scary at first so get
pro-training if needed.)
Now of course your AOA indicators and buzzers are fine to
warn you too. But they are easy to miss if you’re not looking at
the panel and or paying attention to the many sounds that are happening in the
cockpit – especially in landing regimes.
And of course too the counter argument will be “don’t
every get your plane slow and you don’t have to worry about stalling it.”
This advice is known and followed by all pilots and its fine too, but it
does not seem to be working in our case for the simple reason that we’re
not all perfect pilots and sometimes things happen in flight that are not
intended.
From: Lancair Mailing
List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Taylor, David
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 22:10
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: FAA RESCINDS INFO LETTER
What Bill B said below. Amen a hundred times.
If you’re afraid to stall your airplane you should not be
flying it. (Or the Legacy anyway. The Legacy stalls just fine
– predictable and controllable.)
Dave T
Lancair Legacy RG
From: Lancair Mailing List
[mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradburry
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 16:26
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: FAA RESCINDS INFO LETTER
It seems to me that we have all been scared to death by the
admonishments to never stall these planes. As a result, nobody does any
stall testing or training. We will die if we stall the plane! Only
do stalls above 10000 feet because you will not be able to recover prior to
impact!
If this stuff is true, then it is not a judgement or training
issue. A plane that is too dangerous to stall is too dangerous to fly.
A pilot needs to be able to recognize an impending stall in any plane he
is flying. If we are scared to stall these Lancairs, we will eventually
stall close to the ground and become a “training issue”.
I am not yet flying my Legacy, but you can be damn well
certain that stalls will be part of the second flight! The first flight
will be one circuit, land, get out and kiss the ground!
The other problem I think is flight into ice. There
have been several planes that have suddenly fallen out of the sky. I
suspect that is ice. I don’t have thousands of hours, but so far, I
have never encountered ice in any plane I have ever flown. I don’t
plan to change that with my Legacy.
Bill B
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[mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of marv@lancair.net
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:09 AM
To: lml
Subject: [LML] Re: FAA RESCINDS INFO LETTER
Posted
for "Bruce Gray" <Bruce@Glasair.org>:
Does this mean the information is wrong or someone applied political
pressure?
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
[It probably just means that the common sense applied by our anonymous LOBO
person must have sunken in... hardly any accidents have been caused by airframe
failures... in other words, it's not the airplane's fault, it's a training and
piloting issue. Remember many years ago when they called the
Bonanza the "doctor killer"? Same principal... lack of
training, poor judgment, just because you're good at one thing doesn't
automatically make you good at (and prepared for the challenges of) everything
else. <Marv> ]
-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of
Tom McNerney
Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 10:08 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] FAA RESCINDS INFO LETTER
See link:
http://www.eaa.org/news/2009/2009-10-08_lancair.asp
Tom
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