Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #52131
From: Johannes Schredl <jschredl@web.de>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: AW: Belly Landing L-360 Video
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:51:49 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Kevin,
 
I gave this information to share experience, to impove safety and to avoid (wrong) speculation concerning this accident!
One more fact: the test pilot is NOT the owner - that´s why I think HE did a perfect job!
And: I will not claim to judge this mishappening!
 
Johannes
 


Von: Kevin Stallard [mailto:Kevin@arilabs.net]
Gesendet: Sonntag, 12. Juli 2009 01:46
An: lml@lancaironline.net
Betreff: RE: Belly Landing L-360 Video

Wow! 

 

All this congratulations for something that could have been completely avoided.

 

No wonder we’re having a hard time getting insurance.  I can’t believe you guys are patting this guy on the back.  A good reprimand is in order. 

 

He should have never been in this position in the first place.  All it took was jacking up the airplane and doing a gear check.

 

The mentality has got to change folks or we aren’t going to be able to afford our insurance.

 

I’m not impressed.  I hope he’s man enough to pay for his engine and prop repair with out insurance help. 

 

Kevin

 

 

 


From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Johannes Schredl
Sent: 2009-07-11 15:06
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] AW: Belly Landing L-360 Video

 

Fellows,

 

I know the owner of the Lancair and spoke to him today:

- as already mentioned: he replaced the screws of the hinge of the nose gear door; the screws he used was too long (about 1/4" beyond ancour nut)

- hi did no gear check after replacing the srews :-((

- the hydraulic pressure was able to retract the gear (high power); there was scratches of the screws at the nose gear fork

- while lowering the gear, the nose gear was not able to "overcome" the screw jam; the low pressure switch shut off hydraulic

- any manouver like pulling high g etc. were not successful and the test pilot decided to land on grass with all gear in (the airfield EDML has a 3000ft concrete and parallel a 3000 ft grass strip) - watch the video to see the landing - in my opinion a perfect job!

- no injury to any person!!!

- damages:

   - two propeller blades (wood  MT prop) brake off

   - lower cowling serious damaged

   - XPDR antenna at belly broken off

   - scratches / damage to the rudder

   - nothing else!!! : no damage to the flaps, no damage to injector, nearly no damage to exhaust system, nearly no damage to the belly (only slight scratches)

-> my opinion: it was the right decision to use the grass strip with all gears up and flaps about +20°! This would be my favorite configuration in any case of an emergency landing (no engine, gear problems etc.) too! Any other configuration like "no gear on concrete"; "main gear only on concrete"; "main gear only on grass" would cause more risk and damage!

 

Johannes

D-ESWS LNC2

 


Von: John F. Herminghaus [mailto:catignano@tele2.it]
Gesendet: Freitag, 10. Juli 2009 13:50
An: lml@lancaironline.net
Betreff: Re: [LML] Belly Landing L-360 Video

The cause of the accident was that the owner, who I know, replaced the screws in the nose gear door with stainless screws which were longer than the ones they replaced.  As a result the nose gear retracted, but would not extend. 

Tom McNerney ha scritto:

Not to flood this place with youtube links, but this is something I think everyone should see.  Check out the related videos of the plane on the ground before/after the nose gear failure.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEWWQsWThxs
 
Tom
 
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