Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #49086
From: Bill Bradburry <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Wiring a 360
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2008 16:41:27 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>

I have the Approach Systems Pro G hub and several cables that I am not going to use.  It is in the original box and has the original paperwork with it.  I can make someone a good deal on it.

 

Bill B 

 


From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Randy
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2008 12:04 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Wiring a 360

Rob,

That sounds about right. It's a long process, one wire at a time. It's also important to wire your plane correctly. The right wire size and type, ground loops and proper placement of power wires. If wired correctly your plane will work properly, safely and quietly. Wiring it wrong could be a disaster in the air.

You have a few talented builders at CMA, I fly over there all the time. I don't know what shops you have available to you there but they will be at least $100 an hour.

 

Randy Stuart

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 6:12 PM

Subject: [LML] Re: Wiring a 360

 

Wiring a 360 takes a lot of time.  I don't have my book with me but I would be amazed if it didn't turn out to be 200 hours or more by the time I'm done.  This includes figuring out where the wires go, designing and building places to clamp them down, as well as the actual cutting and terminating of all the tiny wires.

On the other hand, I am learning a lot about light aircraft electrical systems.  It's also enjoyable to be able to turn yet another system on every day.  Not like spending four years before you can get an aileron to wiggle back and forth, or the gear to go up and down.  Progress goes faster.

Randy's estimate of a month for a profession job sounds about right to me.  If they are charging a shop rate of $50 that works out to $8000.  At a shop rate of $1000, that's $16,000.  There is your ballpark.

I'd recommend -- and I can't afford this right now -- hiring a trained aircraft electronics technician to help you, but not to do it all by himself.  You will cut the time tremendously, get a professional job that works, and learn a lot.  Pay more and learn less, that's okay too, but it's not for me.  On the other hand, I have convinced myself that I cannot termnate an RG400 cable into the connector that goes to the radio trays, so I'm hiring that out.  As Dirty Harry says, "A man's got to know his limitations."

I have the Approach Systems wiring harness setup.  It's good stuff.  I would not recommend that any untrained person put all of those wire bundles together (unless you really have a lot of time) but I am wiring up the connector bundles for the engine monitor myself.  Mostly I'm just running power and ground wires all over the place.  BTW, one of my Approach Systems cables was miswired.  We had a horrendous squeal coming out of the headphones, and tracked it down to a miswired intercom cable.  We depinned two orange wires and swapped their locations and all was well.  My friends tell me that when they built the Javelin Jet they had similar problems with the Approach Systems cables.  Bottom line -- it's good stuff, and I'd use it again, but don't be surprised if you have to swap a few pins along the way.

The one product I would *not* use again is the Control Vision power distribution system (EXP2V BUS).  It works, and works well, but I think it ended up taking more time and money than a standard circuit breaker panel or fuses.

- Rob Wolf


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