Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #23967
From: Jim Vosters <jvosters@adelphia.net>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Legacy exhaust
Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 08:45:52 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>

Jim,

 

I welded Rich Henning’s exhaust tips on. They work great!

 

From Rich Henning’s webpage http://www.lancairlegacy.com/RHGroup.html

 

“Exhaust tips $99.00
The exhaust tips are mandatory if you purchase the standard exhaust system from Lancair. On my first flight the exhaust gasses burned my paint. I made a trip to Bend, Oregon for some other repairs and went over to the place that actually made the Legacy exhaust system and told them of the problem. They told me that they were basically unable to fix the exhaust. My reply was being the 5th plane of over 200 kits sold, now would be the time to fix the problem. I was on my own. I came up with a easy fix and the perform flawlessly. These tips are simply welded onto the exhaust. If you have any other question please e-mail at rhgroup@earthlink.net or call 1-949-278-7482”

 

Jim Vosters

Legacy # 186 - N357V

 


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jim Cameron
Sent:
Friday, May 28, 2004 1:57 PM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Legacy exhaust

 

    After about 4 hrs on N121J, it's clear that it needs exhaust modifications.  The straight exhaust tubes supplied by Lancair come out too close to the skin.  The exhaust gas stream appears to be flowing along the skin for about 3 or 4 feet before mixing with enough of the airstream to cool it.  If I keep flying with it as is, the paint will start to blister and I'm afraid I might even see delamination.

 

    The factory suggested simply opening up the rear of the cowl exhaust tunnels and deflecting the exhaust pipes downward.  Bad idea, since the ball joints won't accommodate that much bend without leaking.  For some reason, the ball joints were pointed straight back, more or less level, instead of angling downward toward the exhaust tunnels.

 

    The short exhaust tube sections can't be bent -- they don't fit into the usual benders for auto exhaust pipes, and in any case, the thin-walled stainless they're made of would collapse unless a mandrel bender is used.  One solution would be to have an aircraft exhaust company make new ones, which would undoubtedly take quite a while and be expensive.  What I've done instead is to order a U-bend piece from Borla (www.borla.com) that consists of a 6-inch radius, 180-degree section, with 8" legs, all in 2-1/2" diameter T-304 stainless (Borla part number 19250).  I'll bevel the ends of the legs, then cut so that I have a 20-degree curve section on the other end.  I've cut the exhaust pipes off 10" from their ends, and found a gent locally who can weld the thin-wall stainless.

 

    This ought to bring the open ends of the exhaust pipes several inches lower and farther from the skin.  Perhaps newer exhausts supplied by Lancair are different, but if yours are like mine, think about getting the exit ends well away from the belly of the airplane.  With any luck, the noise level inside might even be reduced a little.

 

Jim Cameron

Legacy N121J

 

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