From: Doug Baleshta <dbaleshta@tru.ca>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 6:30 AM
Subject: [LML] flap deflection on LN 360 - outboard gear

Just finalizing all the settings before the big spark next week.  It will be nice after 6 years to make some smoke...
I noticed that my flaps are moving down to around 30 degrees, 10 degrees less than the plans.  This is due mainly to the amount the control horn intrudes into the back seat which I could change with some rasping etc.  Will 10 degrees make much difference, what do you drivers use, do you ever use full flaps?

Thanks
Doug

>>> <N66mg@aol.com> 08/12/11 11:48 AM >>>
Michael Smith, where ever  you are, I like to ask you a few questions about
the L-IV...All I hear is about  the L-IVP and I decided to go the IV
route...The kit that I bought is a IVP and  after all the troubles that I have
heard about I'm staying with the IV...But I  would like to ask some info about
it.
Thanks in  advance,
Michael  Giardino
Glasair II-RG  flying
7sz L-IV being  painted
_n66mg@aol.com_ (mailto:n66mg@aol.com)
310-678-4068  cell


In a message dated 8/11/2011 1:33:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
gt_phantom@hotmail.com writes:

Hi  Michael,

You left out a very important part of that study, leaving your  conclusions
questionable.

Even the persons who conducted the study  suggested that at least part (or
perhaps most) of the reason for the  statistics had to do with people flying
in airplanes that were not  familiar.  With steam gages, they all look
pretty much the same; not so  flat panels.

Like others, you have therefore drawn the wrong  conclusion.  It is not the
EFIS that is "more dangerous," but the pilot  who neglects to become
extremely competent with their chosen panel  before flying IFR "for real."

If you are going to strictly fly random  rentals, I would agree that your
best strategy is to stick to steam  gages.  If, however, 99% of your flying
will be in your own plane then  you simply need to become completely
knowledgeable about / comfortable with  your panel before flying into the soup.

Fly  safe!

Bill


On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Colyn Case wrote: 
michael,  got a link to that report?



On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Michael Smith wrote:




All these discussions about panel upgrades and so on begs the question as to

which setup- a an EFIS and flat screen set up or standard spinning gyros

works better in terms of delivering an intact crew and passenger to the

terminal and a plane that is reusable for further flight. I clearly agree

the panels look cool, but I do pay attention to peer reviewed science.  The



Cirrus folks did a study and the results published about a year ago

comparing the conventional gyro panels and the EFIS in the same model of

plane- as close a randomized controlled trial in aviation as possible these

days. 



The EFIS cohort bent more planes and orphaned more kids than the old school

gyros.



So I won't be flying with an EFIS until someone can prove they're safer.



Michael Smith

LIV now over 1000TT







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