Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #46524
From: randy snarr <randylsnarr@yahoo.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: 235/320/360 gear dump valve idea
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:11:10 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Larry,
Open the valve and manually swing the gear by hand on the jacks. When the slightest negative pressure is experienced airoplenty will enter therein...
I think...

RS

"McCune, Duane" <DMccune@csuchico.edu> wrote:
 


From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of LHenney
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 4:45 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] 235/320/360 gear dump valve idea

Randy,
 
I’m not getting this concern.  The dump line goes to the tank and ends submerged in fluid with a ¼” down tube in the reservoir.  Additionally, in my opinion no fluid would ever travel upstream toward the valve.  Thus, no air would be added to the system by use of a 3 way vavle.
 
Larry
 

From: randy snarr [mailto:randylsnarr@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 9:59 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: 235/320/360 gear dump valve idea
 
Chris,
Is there such a thing as a check valve that could be incorporated into the 3rd pressure dump line to the hyd reservoir?
That way you could open the dump valve releasing positive pressure from the high/low sides of the system but you would not be allowing air from that same line if the was no positive pressure or negative pressure?
Could a shuttle valve help do that?

Randy Snarr

Chris Zavatson <chris_zavatson@yahoo.com> wrote:
<<From: Randy <randystuart
Then the pump pressurizes the high side and it stops, and the shuttle valve centers,...>>
This is where pumps in the fleet differ.  In my two pumps the shuttle valve does not return to center.  It stays where the fluid last pushed it.  The O-ring on the spool offers up much more friction than the spring on the poppet valve could ever hope to overcome.  I am curious if all pump vintages have O-rings on the spool valve and/or how snug the fit might be?  If the spool can be made to stay put, the problem goes away.  I am simply suggesting this as something to investigate before a lot of new plumbing is added to the system.
 
A little over a year ago, when this issue was last discussed, I took a series of photos showing the effect of heating and cooling.  What is observed is that the high side pressure goes up and down with temperature (heat gun and ice bath) while the low side remains at zero. 
My pumps are '95 and newer.
 
Chris Zavatson
N91CZ
360std
 

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