Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #67974
From: Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 13B Teardown
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2025 07:43:51 +0800
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sorry Finn, I didn't mean for anyone to have to read that thread, is why I saved the important bits.
I think it valid to reuse orings if you can, in my case the original Mazda orings had swelled slightly and were a bugger to keep in the grooves so I made new ones. The superglue was supplied with the cord so I don't know which version, I just cut & glued to length. I did also add a very small amount of rtv just where the join was just to be sure. 

Andrew



On Sun, 28 Dec 2025, 10:16 pm Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net, <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Thanks Andrew. I suffered through all 80+ posts in that thread and my head is spinning. My main question about the inner o-rings: the Mazda ones are not butt-end spliced but overlapped about an inch, why?

What's the difference between iso- and cyan-  superglue when it comes to splicing o-rings?

But I might just reuse my existing o-rings. Still soft. May not even pull the oil control rings.
May get new dowel o-rings as they have set a bit.

Finn

On 12/28/2025 12:15 AM, Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au wrote:
This is the notes on o'rings from my build, Info came from Ausrotary forum members, I just saved the relevant info along with the workshop manual for my engine, a 13b Renisis, your o'ring lengths may vary slightly depending on model. Basically its just get the right sized cord, cut it to length, glue ends with superglue.

 Andrew

On Sun, 28 Dec 2025 at 10:42, Les C lesphoto@hotmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Any information on how to make your own "o" rings?


From: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> on behalf of Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2025 7:57:09 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 13B Teardown
 
Hi Finn
You can make your own orings. Actually this is now my preference as it is extremely cheap & reliable process.

that plane must be a real hoot to fly. Do you want to send it to Australia?

Andrew Martin
+61 0427477144
andrew@martinag.com.au




On Sun, 28 Dec 2025, 6:29 am Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net, <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
I was unable to get compression on more than one chamber.

So I removed the engine from  the RV-3B today.

I decided to heat the front bolt with a propane torch for several
minutes when my HF 3' breaker bar began to deflect noticeably. Then it
broke loose.

Fortunately I still have the rear nut remover that I fabricated (by
hand, no less) and welded up back in the late 90ies. Still needed a 2x4
to keep engine from moving. Also had to heat the nut with a propane
torch. Wood block splintered, so used a 5" socket extension between
counterweight tip and bottom right rear plate corner. Recommend using
edge area of rear plate that is not used in your application, just in
case it breaks off.  Evidence of threadlocker on both front bolt and big
nut. Required a rivet gun with mushroom head on the rear shaft to get
the counterweight off.

Interesting that he rebuild uTube videos I've been watching do not
mention threadlocker  on front bolt and rear nut.

Anticipate several days of cleaning before I'll know what to order.

I wonder if the $80 "reusable" o-ring kit on eBay is junk or if safe to use.

Finn

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