Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #67065
From: 12348ung@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Ag Ops
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 07:55:37 +1100
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Andrew,

                    Re spraying, you are right, but drones are a different application.  Blanket spraying with a boom is a “one size fits all” and becoming very costly.  With drones you have the crop photographed first (small drone) and then see what has to be sprayed, could be as little as 5 – 10% a massive saving in chemical.  Correcting micro nutrient deficiencies in the crop are usually and definitely not a boom job, as a blanket spray may well do more harm than good.  Tissue testing of the crop will identify what is lacking and can be corrected with a drone,  eg Boron, zinc, Moly, potassium and the host of others.  A tissue test combined with aerial analysis can detect just what needs to be sprayed.  All crops are only as good as the limiting factor nutrient wise.  This is the future of cropping as costs explode.  From experience a $1 application of Zinc can return $50. 

                The drone setup is simply an imagination at the moment, have many experts in their field to consult.  One is the retired Navy test pilot living near me who flew almost all “aerial vehicles” the navy had.  Has something like 300 planes on his licence.  Very switched on and no bullshit.

A drone is complicated and just like C of G, inertia is a real problem flying at 2 metres above the crop.  That leaves no margin for error as in gusts and wind pockets, not to mention trees and power poles.

                Enough power for a quick / instant response is required.  Here electric is brilliant but a generator and motors are still very heavy.  Mechanical is good, but how to get different speeds on the rotors??  That leaves hydraulics which are also not light.  No easy answers anywhere. 

                Again these things will not be “play things” as cost will be considerable, as everything else is in cropping.  Maintenance is a real issue with farmers and all the other joys involved.  Very early days and little to no information other than power to weight is critical and here the mazda is on its own.

Neil.

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2021 10:53 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ag Ops

 

Hi Steve, hows the Glasair going? I been away from flying for awhile, hopefully back into it in new year. Did start mine recently after it been sitting idle since feb 2020, So happy I persevered with the mazda, it started & ran so sweet I contemplated doing a couple of circuits but for the legalities. No MR and I need AFR first.

 

Neil, not sure I agree with your rotor setup proposal, ( not that mine is better) can get some weird aerodynamics with intermeshing rotors.

Whole thing of nurse cart & drone need to be a package, rotors will never be stopped during refill so drone needs to land on roof of truck or trailer for refill from underneath to keep blades clear of dumbasses like me.

Truth be told, I dont think we can get anywhere near the efficiency of a ground rig or Ag plane, we easily average 80 ha/hr each machine + nurse cart, going to need a swarm of drones to get near this. But could be a fun project.

Andrew

 

On Tue, 19 Oct. 2021, 9:07 am Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com, <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Good to hear your voice Andrew.

My son-in-law in Kojonup would be very interested in what you guys are talking about.

 

Cheers

 

Steve Izett



 

 

 

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Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag

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