Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #52363
From: <Lehanover@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: SAG from Paducah
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:56:13 EDT
To: <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
In a message dated 9/30/2010 4:22:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, SBoese@uwyo.edu writes:
Lynn,
 
I believe we all appreciate your input and benefit from your experience and insights.  I would like to respond  (in italics) to points you made below to make sure I understand what you are saying.  I for one am looking forward to "more later".
 
Steve Boese
 
Let us review...............
 
We take an engine from a car that usually operates below 2,200 RPM, and at partial throttle for 99.5% of its life, and put it in airplane and run it at 6,000 RPM and wide open throttle for hours on end, and even a cold street plug is boiling cement and rounding electrodes? Now who could have guessed that would happen.
 
  Many times the statement has been made that we are not pushing the rotary engine nearly as hard in the aircraft application as it is in the racing situation and racing modifications are generally not necessary for the aircraft.  Is the spark plug an exception to this? 
Yes it is. The racing stresses involve bearing wear at say 9,600 RPM and the rotors weigh about 9.7 pounds.
The rotors have the side shaved down for weight reduction and to allow the rotors to tip over a bit as the crank shaft bends into an "S" shape at high revs. Along these lines you oil the crank from both ends to keep the bearing in the front rotor. The mechanical stuff is obvious and relatively easy to deal with.
 
The spark plug has been more difficult. There is no off cycle as in a 4 stroke piston engine. every rotor face gets two spark plugs firing. Two power strokes per revolution. So the heat load is higher. The long reach of the body provides the maximum amount of contact with the water jacket. The racing plugs gifted to Mazda competitors is the NGK R6725 11.5. So it is the Mazda competition department that thinks this plug is the one to use. In this numbering system street ported racers us a 10 heat range. Bridge ported and turbos use the 11.5 heat range. This is a style 6 tip D on the chart. It is ice cold and has a retracted tip The plug ends down inside the shell.
 
As for duty cycle, race cars are limited to full throttle in doses of about 40 seconds on longest straights, and that includes zero throttle at each shift. Now racers have 200 channels of data coming in from the car, and time at each percentage of full throttle is now known. So let us say that we end up with 60% of the time above 3/4 throttle. At the top of each of those runs it will be sitting just above 9,600 RPM. Our races are 45 minutes long.
 
In the home built leaving Georgia going to Kentucky, at 6,000 RPM and 6,000 feet (about 75% power) and wide open throttle for 3 hours. No throttle reductions until the field is at hand. So the aircraft duty cycle far exceeds the racer duty cycle and approaches 100%.
If the spark plug heat range was inappropriate when new, it is puzzling that the problem with it takes 30 or more hours to show up when using 100LL fuel and hundreds of hours for the problem to develop when using auto fuel.  
The spark plug is not the wrong heat range for the car. The tip design is probably designed to run a bit hotter than is required, and the heat range is broadened by the shell and grounds shielding the tip.
 The overheated plug boils the cement  near the tip of the plug, thermally disconnecting the electrode from the ceramic, and allowing the electrode temperature to run away. This is typical of an overheated tip (wrong heat range for the application) You may not get the electrode back with the plug. Check in the muffler or in a competitors tire.  
 We do not observe that type of damage to the spark plugs.  The information I have seen indicates that it is the insulator where it pinches out at the tip that becomes too hot.  The electrode itself is much more closely thermally coupled to the cooling system. 
This could lead to preignition (an ignition event that occurs before the planned ignition). Unless the mixture is well rich of ideal or well lean of ideal, the pre-ignition would lead quickly to detonation followed by the apex seals getting stuck in the muffler.
 Which is precisely why it would be nice to know what is actually happening.  How close to the edge of disaster are we really operating?
 
The high performance Mazda street plugs (turbo plugs) have shielding on the shell ends similar in appearance to some aircraft plugs. They are not aircraft plugs. They may not survive hours at full load wide open throttle. The heat range is cooler than most street plugs it is true, but nothing like a racing plug. If the cement has not boiled, the plug is not too high a heat range.
 
  Racing Beat must define a "racing plug" differently. 
Racing Beat recommends the same plug for racing as Mazda Competition. NGK R6725 11.5
 
Real racing plugs do not have that shielding. They have a welded ground electrode or a fine wire ground electrode stuck through the side of the shell. They have porcelain filling the shell all the way to the end and may have a fine wire center electrode. They are as cold a heat range as is possible to produce. They are orders of magnitude colder than the coldest street plug.  
Cement boil is the first indication of too high a heat range for the application. That is all the warning you may get in a rotary. In a piston engine you might also see aluminum balls stuck to the porcelain. 
 
I think the SAG is a result of lead salts fouling of the porcelain insulator, in conjunction with the use of the Kettering style ignition systems. With no leaded fuel there seems to be no limit to plug life. And with 100LL about 30 hours. So it is lead salts related. The mechanism of the failure is open to conjecture.
 
I contend that the dismally slow rise time of the Kettering system lets voltage leak across the lead deposits as the field begins its collapse. Whatever leaks is subtracted from the peak voltage, and voltage across the gap begins to decay. Poor ignition slowly develops into accessional misfires and that SAGGING feeling. 
 
Since the cylinder pressure is a factor in gap voltage requirements, removing a bit of throttle seems to cure SAG. Less throttle, poorer cylinder filling, less pressure, the lower voltage now fires the plug. So all is well until full throttle is tried again.
 
In racing there are only 2 ignition systems I know of. The Mallory High fire CD system or the MSD6AL CD system. I gap plugs to .010". Never an ignition related problem. The racing plug gaps can be adjusted, unlike the stock Mazda plug. You can revive a SAG engine by gapping the plugs shorter. Less voltage required to jump the gap, and you are back in business.  
 
If you want to buy NGK racing plugs, its $28.00 each. Probably the B10EV is cold enough for aircraft use.
Take a wrench and a box of new plugs. Be sure you can change the plugs with no additional tools. You can use the heat range equivalent in an Autolight plug from Autozone for about $6.00 for a box of 4. Same price for Autolight racing plugs, but they have to order for delivery the next day. an AR2592 works fine, and they have one number colder than that. I think. I got those free and used them in the racer a few weekends. They run fine in my Kia as well and free was the right price. The NGKs were free as well so those went back in the racer. You get more smiles when you run the plugs they give you....................
 
The melting center electrode works just fine for me as a cause, but I am not feeling a connection to lead salts causing that.
 
The Racing Beat manual/catalogue is free to download from their web site. Worth a read.     
 
 
Lynn E. Hanover
 
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