Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #36126
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: The truth??? / Injector flow rate mystery solved
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:39:13 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
23 Sources!  Gee, I can't think of that many variables involved {:>).
 
As Tracy stated, fortunately the errors are fairly consistent and therefore can be "calibrated" out to where the error is less than 1% (actually much less).  So while the issue of accuracy at cruise settings is a non- issue (in my opinion), the sloppy idle due to excessive fuel was not such a minor issue.
 
At one time I tried to increase my injectors from the 460 cc/min to the 550 cc/min and found the idle got so lumpy and sloppy that I had to switch back - now the reason is  a bit clearer why the problem with idle.
 
Early on after switching to Tracy's EC2 I was using a different intake/injector set with injectors that flowed around 32 lbs/hour.  My idle was very smooth with those, but decided to use the block holes for the primary injectors so adopted the Mazda injectors which were rated for around 42 lbs/hour.  My idle was never quite as good as with the smaller injectors.
 
Actually, probably a good idea to go smaller on the primaries and larger (if needed) on the secondary injectors.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:45 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The truth??? / Injector flow rate mystery solved

In a word, Big.
 
  But in the end, it really does not matter.   Ed and I have found that after calibration (compensating for all the cumulative errors), the flow reading error under cruise conditions is insignificant.  It might be intellectually gratifying to know how much error there is in all 23 sources  but that would be time spent not building and not flying.  A bad trade.  But if someone wants to hunt them down and report on them, I'll listen with interest!
 
Tracy (back to working on the -8, and waiting on Bluemountain - Arrrgghh.....)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:17 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The truth??? / Injector flow rate mystery solved

Guys, sorry for the interruption....

How much error is really being seen? 
 
Back in my early days at Bosch GmbH (I worked in the IC Center in Reutlingen, GErmany) on the fuel injectors, and with the BMW system on calibration.   It's been a while, but at the time we had come up with something like 23 sources of errors on "pulse width" vs. "fuel flow measurement".  
 
Sorry for being such a dummy, but I'm having a hard time trying to figure out just how much error is involved, and under what rpm range (idle, cruise, high speed cruise, WOT).   
 
Tom Walter
(digest mode)
 
 
 
 
 


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