Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #36125
From: Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: A solution? Injector flow rate mystery solved
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:12:49 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
A zener or MOV is definitely near the top of the list for the fix. 
 
Peak & hold drivers were not used in the EC2  because their advantage is to very accurately control the IPW at idle where emission control is most difficult, not a big consideration on the EC2. For their own reasons, Mazda didn't use them in the RX-7 ECU either.  P&H drivers also add complexity and failure modes but not a big deal.   
 
The final fix will utilize the diode clamps but not as originally configured.  By isolating their connection to +12 (easy to do, just one trace cut) the fix can be the addition of a single part to the junction of the clamps.  Might as well use the diodes since they are there and simplify the fix.  The wattage of the part will need to be higher (than individual snubbers) but my studies so far indicate that the dissipated power is surprisingly small.
 
Tracy
----- Original Message -----
From: Al Gietzen
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 11:33 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: A solution? Injector flow rate mystery solved

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: A solution? was : The truth??? / Injector flow rate mystery solved

 

What about MOV's?  Typical transient response time measured in nanoseconds...

   <Marv>  

My expert, who has designed ECUs for other applications, had the following comments that may be of interest:

 

As far as the ECU goes, the diodes should be replaced with

tranzorbs or zeners of about 30 volts.  I don't think a pull down resistor

of 1K as suggested will do anything at all.  It should be roughly 8 times

the injector resistance (assuming the injector hold current is less than 8

times the pull-in current -- typically it's between 4 and 6).  And if you

want a true peak and hold injector driver, then the National LM1949 is the

way to go.

 

The resistor only makes

sense at very high RPMs, probably higher than what the engine can do, so I

consider it optional.  The relay contacts are not the issue.  The issue is

protecting the drive transistor which will fail at voltages lower than what

will cause an arc in the relay (not to mention RF noise).  The other issue

is minimizing the current flow as the magnetic field collapses.

 

As previously mentioned, the ‘correct’ way to drive a high flow rate injector is using a

peak and hold circuit.

 

FWIW;

 

Al G

 
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