Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #35530
From: kevin lane <n3773@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] OFF Subject Re: [FlyRotary] 3 rotors & camera - off subject
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 10:29:53 -0800
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
he thought that it was about $1500/hr for the helo and $3000/day for the camera.  he was telling me about flying into a small strip in a jet in Africa.  I mentioned that the engines are much higher off the ground than a prop.  he said that reverse thrust covered the wings with rocks.  scary job.  he was glad that he wasn't departing in that plane.   kevin
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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 5:01 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] OFF Subject Re: [FlyRotary] 3 rotors & camera - off subject

Kevin,
 
WOW!!!
 
A friend of mine has a somewhat "cheap" version, only about $200K (Cineflex) on a somewhat more expensive tripod ($2.2M for a AS350B3 - no, not the one I got checked out on....). The one in your photo seems to be a B2 or BA.
 
What is the brand of the gimbal/camara?
 
I doubt that they ever have a need to go to 90º!!
 
It is an awesome move though - on my checkout I was demo-ed a 70ª nose-down and a 110ª roll over, after that a couple of level 70-80ª turns (there you really start to feel some g's!
The 70º starts as a HOGE at around 2000' AOL and ends as a highspeed, soft, pull out of the dive.
The 110º starts as a highspeed climbing (20º) turn, bleeding off speed at the top and just keep rolling and let the machine dive - no pulling g's until pulling out of the dive.
If you are ever in one of these maneuvers you start to feel sorry for the camera!
 
Your comments give me hope though that, if I ever have the chance to fly a gimbal/camera like this, it would not be boring.
Generally the producer want's you to be nothing than a steady tripod and let the camera engineer do all the fun (yes, there is no more such person like a camera-man on these things :)) On lower budget productions the TV-camera is shoulder or bungee supported which prevents maximum use of the zoom as shaking (from the helicopter, wind buffet, etc.) shows in the picture - that means the camera/helo has to get close to the object. The cameraman tries to keep the cam as steady as possible and generally the helo does all the interesting moves - that's where I get the most fun!!
 
Best Regards,
 
Thomas :)
 
PS: The cineflex goes for about $6K per day, what this puppy?
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: kevin lane
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 6:56 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] 3 rotors & camera - off subject

never seen this before, a $1.5M camera and a $1.5M "tripod"!  they are filming downtown and stopped for fuel.  can you believe they flew this 6 hrs from LA.? (that's $9,000+ one way)  the gyro mount can handle 110 degrees of bank! (that's past vertical)  the pilot admitted he's never been past 90 however.   kevin


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