Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #26960
From: Michael LaFleur <mike.lafleur@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: injector size
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:08:19 -0700 (PDT)
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
For the same reason that you used to be able to power
up the ECU in old Ford's by just pressing the brake
pedal. The battery feed from the brake on/off switch
was backfeeding the ECU. They fixed that problem by
redesigning the input circuit 20 years ago.

Mike LaFleur

--- Bulent Aliev <atlasyts@bellsouth.net> wrote:

Hi Ed,
I discovered last night that there is a mystery
related to my primary  injector switch: with only the master on, I turn the
primary injector  switch on, and the EM display comes on with 6.5V
"low voltage"  reading. I have to find out how the injector cirquit
can feed power  to the EM?
Any ideas?
Buly
On Oct 11, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Ed Anderson wrote:

> Buly,  Something you might try is setting the
staging manifold  > pressure point at a higher manifold pressure. That way your 550c  > primary should be the only ones on at low and even
medium rpms and  > since the Ec2 appears to work fine with 550s out
of the box, this  > might help. Since you have already gone the mode 3
route, this is  > the only thing I can think of.
>
> I believe the problem is that upon initial start, the EC2 sees  > ambient pressure in the manifold (30"Hg) and
thinks the engine is  > wide open throttle, it checks the fuel map for the
amount of fuel  > to inject for MAP = 30"Hg and  injects fuel (a
lot!) accordingly.   > Normally, this is not a problem as the engine
immediately starts  > and  sucks the manifold pressure down to the
nominal 12-14" Hg (for  > idle) and the fuel injected is adjust accordingly
AND the secondary  > are turned off (until the manifold pressure again
rises to the  > staging point), but with your big injectors having
all four dump  > fuel before the engine is started and running is
probably  > contributing to the problem.
>
> Do you have switches on your injectors and have
you tried starting  > with the secondary injectors turned off??
>
> I presume you don't have the cold start turned on
(accidentally or  > otherwise -shorted).
>
> I presume you have programmed a lean mixture for
start up region .
>
> Ed A
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bulent Aliev" > <atlasyts@bellsouth.net>
> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft"
<flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 4:15 PM
> Subject: [FlyRotary] injector size
>
>
>
>> Hi Guys,
>> For the last few months I have been struggling
with engine  >> flooding  on start up.  Looking at the EC2
manual, it tells me  >> that it comes  pre-set for "standard" Mazda
injectors. I checked  >> the injector charts  and most of the Mazdas have
460 or 550 CC  >> injectors for primary and  secondary. My engine
(Cosmo 13B) comes  >> with 550 cc primary and 850 cc  secondary.
>>
>> I did some Mode3 adjustment on the EC-2 and looks
like it's a bit   >> better, but the trailing plugs get wet if it does
not start right  >> away?
>> Any Ideas?
>> Buly
>>
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Bulent Aliev
www.enginegearonline.com
Email: bulent@enginegearonline.com
Ph. 954 557-1019

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