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I'd heard that if you LOSE your medical, you can't fly LSC, but if you have a valid medical and just don't bother to renew it, you CAN fly LSC. Is that not true? ... Jim S.
George Lendich wrote:
Mike,
We must have different rules down here!
If you lose your medical, you can still drive your car and you only need a Car licence for Light Sport category - to my knowledge. Although it's not due to be implemented here in Australia until September, there could be some guidelines as you indicate.
I know people with blood pressure and Diabetes lose their medical - but doesn't stop them from driving their cars.
George ( down under)
IF you LOSE your medical, you can NOT indeed drive your car and
still fly a sport/light. If your medical is revoked you are
through flying anything but 103 ultralights. This is going to get
a LOT of guys fried. If you have a know diagnosed illness that
would preclude you getting a medical, you CANNOT fly a sport/light
even if you have a drivers lisence. If you have a medical and fly
with a know deficiency, it is the same as NOT having a medical,
even if you do not see a doctor. Fair or not, that's the rules and
those who try to skirt the rules and get caught are going to be in
a hell of a mess. Mike C.
----- Original Message -----
*From:* George Lendich <mailto:lendich@optusnet.com.au>
*To:* Rotary motors in aircraft
<mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2005 7:09 PM
*Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: FAA - we're here to help you
Kevin,
Being on a Disability pension don't stop you flying a plane.
It may make it harder to get a medical clearance and you won't
get a clearance if your on Medication, such as mind bending
drugs e.g. Pilots with past Depression and Bipolar can get
Medicals - Paranoid Schizophrenia is only controlled by mind
bending drugs, so that one's a NO NO!
One must be upfront with the details however - some have
suggested that it's easier to lie than get a medical with past
medical conditions. I notice a lot of chaps losing their
medicals for Diabetes and Blood Pressure etc.
However you can still drive a car and fly Light Sport Category.
George ( down under)
Saw this in today's _New York Times_.
July 20, 2005
U.S. Says 46 Pilots Lied to Obtain Their Licenses
By CAROLYN MARSHALL
SAN FRANCISCO, July 19 - Prosecutors in Northern
California have
charged 46 pilots with lying to federal authorities to
obtain airplane
licenses, in most cases not disclosing debilitating
illnesses that
should have kept them grounded.
The pilots, who were indicted this week by grand juries in
the eastern
and northern federal districts of California, were
identified during
an 18-month criminal air traffic safety investigation by the
Department of Transportation and the Social Security
Administration
that looked into licensed pilots who were also receiving
disability
benefits and payments from the government.
The investigation, initiated in July 2003, included a
review of more
than 40,000 pilot licenses issued in Northern California
to determine
whether there had been any misuse or abuse of Social
Security numbers.
The authorities reviewed licenses held by both commercial
and private
pilots and found that some license applicants claimed to
be medically
fit to fly an airplane yet were simultaneously receiving
disability
benefits.
"The fraud and falsification allegedly committed by these
individuals
is extremely serious and adversely affects the public
interest in air
safety," said Nicholas Sabatini, an associate
administrator with the
Federal Aviation Administration.
Charles H. Lee Jr., an assistant inspector general for
investigations
at the Department of Transportation, said the reviewers
first focused
their investigation on 48 pilots, most of whom were receiving
disability payments for illnesses like paranoid
schizophrenia, bipolar
disorder and disabling heart conditions.
One case, Mr. Lee said, even involved someone who
exhibited severe
suicidal tendencies.
"To get their certificates, these people had to lie or falsify
paperwork," Mr. Lee said. "The F.A.A. has rules and
regulations
regarding medical conditions and deemed that all 48 had
medical
disabilities that would have disqualified them from
holding pilot
certificates."
Two cases were dropped, Mr. Lee said, one because the
pilot died. He
declined to comment about whether similar investigations
were under
way in other states.
Of the 46 pilots that Mr. Lee said were charged, 7 held
commercial
pilot certificates that would have allowed them to fly as
well as
carry cargo; another 4 pilots held air transportation pilot
certificates which would let them transport passengers.
Of the remaining indicted pilots, 28 had private pilot
licenses, and 7
had student licenses.
A charge of lying to the federal authorities carries a
penalty of up
to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine. A charge of
falsifying
records carries a penalty of up to one year in prison and
a $100,000
fine.
According to court documents, the pilots who were indicted
failed to
provide accurate medical history forms, as required by the
F.A.A., in
some cases lying about a previous illness or claiming that
there had
been no previous medical diagnosis or treatment for
conditions that
the pilots knew they had.
Laura Brown, a spokeswoman for the F.A.A., said that
pilots could
obtain a license only after they submit oral and written
tests and
current medical certificates. Those certificates can be
issued only by
an aviation medical examiner registered with the agency.
Certain
medical conditions would disqualify an applicant from
receiving a
license.
"The reason we have disqualifying conditions is to ensure
that pilots
are not a danger to others, in the air or on the ground,"
Ms. Brown
said.
Ms. Brown said that the pilots were charged with either
making false
statements to a federal official or delivering to a
federal official a
false written record. She added that 14 of the pilots held
active
pilot licenses, which were immediately revoked.
The remaining pilots had licenses that had either lapsed
or were
missing current information, which would not prevent them
from flying
a private plane.
"It's similar to when people go out and drive cars without
a license,
or drive cars when intoxicated," Ms. Brown said. "It's
illegal but
they do it."
At least one of the indicted pilots appeared in Federal
District Court
in Sacramento on Tuesday. The remaining pilots will be
arraigned
individually in the coming weeks.
Kevin Lane Portland, OR
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