Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #22152
From: George Lendich <lendich@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: More MAP measurement questions
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 08:46:49 +1000
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Message
Al,
I have been working with 12A's and their combined area is 2.5" with a 20% increase is 3" - I don't think PL recommended more than a 3" TB for the 13B, as far as my memory serves me. So a 1.5" per rotor ( or 3" overall) should be OK.
However 2.34 seems a little small for the 13B.
George (down under)

What’s new about this theory?  This is what I was telling you a week or two ago. J

I apologize for lack of clarity, causing you to have to re-invent this theory.

 

Al (Also running TWM TB) 

 

 

That's now the old theory Al.  The latest theory is that you and I are just kidding ourselves, and the restriction is real.  I just wish people like Bill and Bernie would have the decency to lie to me about their readings :-)  

 

Our intake designs are different; so perhaps the concerns are as well.  I have very short runners downstream from the TB, so the MAP reading is very close to what is seen at the ports.  It would be interesting to know what the MAP reading is near the intake port in a setup like Tracy’s.  Whether the MAP reading at the TWM ports is accurate or not, I don’t know.  My 44mm diameter barrels (1 per rotor) may be a bit smaller than I’d like; but I don’t think they are causing a significant performance penalty.  The MAP reading is, of course, not the full measure of the charge into the chamber.  There are the pulses and momentum (velocity) to consider.

 

It might be good to have the TB barrel x-section area roughly matched to the port area.  I can’t find my calcs now, but I think the combined primary and secondary ports on my engine is over 3 sq. in., like maybe 3.5; and the TB barrel is 2.34 sq. in.  So maybe a 20% larger diameter would give better high end performance, at some expense to throttle response.

 

I am anxiously awaiting your definitive data on performance vs TB barrel diameter. J

 

Al

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