Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #22147
From: Russell Duffy <13brv3@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: More MAP measurement questions
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:33:58 -0500
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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It would be interesting to know what the MAP reading is near the intake port in a setup like Tracy’s. 
 
Hi Al,  I would love to see someone like Ed or Tracy give a MAP reading for the plenum, and also the runner near the port.  My thought was that their MAP would be low, like mine near the port.  Unfortunately, if Bill and Bernie can get near Sea Level MAP readings measured in their runners,  then mine must be restrictive.  
 
  Whether the MAP reading at the TWM ports is accurate or not, I don’t know.  
 
I'm thinking of drilling and tapping a port in the current intake, near the port, just to see if it reads near the same as the TWM port.  I have to bet that it will, since there's no reason the TWM port should be wrong.  
   
 My 44mm diameter barrels (1 per rotor) may be a bit smaller than I’d like; but I don’t think they are causing a significant performance penalty.  The MAP reading is, of course, not the full measure of the charge into the chamber.  There are the pulses and momentum (velocity) to consider. 
 
I agree, but with only 40mm barrels, and my desire to run 7500+ rpm, I think I'm going to have to upgrade.   I may find out that I get a better MAP reading, but no more power, due to losing the velocity, but I have to find out.   

 

It might be good to have the TB barrel x-section area roughly matched to the port area.  I can’t find my calcs now, but I think the combined primary and secondary ports on my engine is over 3 sq. in., like maybe 3.5; and the TB barrel is 2.34 sq. in.  So maybe a 20% larger diameter would give better high end performance, at some expense to throttle response. 

 

You've got to be way below the port size with a 20B for sure.  Even my 4-port primary and secondary adds up to 1.77 sq in, which equates to a 45mm barrel.   

 

I am anxiously awaiting your definitive data on performance vs TB barrel diameter. J 

 

Yeah, I bet you are.  About the only thing I've proven definitively, is that you shouldn't use an evap core for an oil cooler :-)

 

Cheers,

Rusty (providing my part of the education and entertainment) 

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