Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #20656
From: George Lendich <lendich@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: All Parts have arrived, Whew!
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 15:46:22 +1000
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Finn,
Quite obviously you haven't been following the thread, Ed has exhausted most possible problems.
 
Other Issues!
 
The STATIONARY gears are hardened in the later models, can't remember the year that started, I believe 1989 ? They give little problem unless damaged and I believe their only damaged when abused.
Normal use don't appreciably wear the e-shaft or bearings - but it doesn't hurt to check them per the manual.
 
Anything 'Out of tolerance' replace them - same as the rotor slots.
If they give the tolerance and it's exceeded, it's gunna fail IMHO.
George ( down under)
 
You all have to remember that Ed has a knack for finding and exploring all possible failure modes - known,  unknown, and yes, even the impossible :)

Something that no one has memtioned is the gears (end housings/rotors).
Also rotor bearings/e-shaft clearance.
What's the consequences of out-of tolerances here?
I just can't see that a bit of wobble of the apex seals in their grooves could cause a seal to break.
Also, how could you have such excellent compression with worn seals/grooves?
Sounds more like a fluke or foreign object to me. Any chance that some carbon build-up near exhaust ports could break loose and get jammed between seal and edge of exhaust port?
Any telltale on the rotor housing as to where the seal broke?
Did you *thoroughly* inspect the four sparkplugs? Any piece of metal or porcelain missing at all?

Finn

Ed Anderson wrote:
Well, George, I would not  take the conclusion that far.  We have folks flying with several hundred more hours than I have with no apex seal failures.  In fact to the best of my knowledge, I am the only one I am aware of other than Chuck Dunlap who's rotary engine swallowed a 1/4" dia steel bolt (it was retained - so we know) to have an apex seal failure in an aircraft.  However, I do believe that folks need to be more aware of the true condition of their used engine components - I know all probably did was look at it and not seeing any obviously defects or dings said - "good to go!"
 
As you know, Leon is convinced my apex seal failure was also due to foreign object ingestion - I certainly can not prove it was something else (like the apex seal slop)  although I don't believe a foreign object  to be the case - belief is not a fact {:>). 
 
 
Ed
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