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[FlyRotary] Re: [FlyRotary]2002 crash of Taylor
Coot w/13b
I called NTSB to tell them
what I knew and they said that my information was know good to them as
I had no weight and balance numbers for them and that they believed
Mazda mechanics findings.
A friend that is the head of the
flight standards office did call me and wanted info more for his own
mind and said that it was out of his hands and in NTSB's hands and
really they just fill in the blanks on the form for experimental's as
we are just a thorn in there side.
Ken
Ken,
Were you interviewed by the NTSB regarding the events and
the installation?
Dave
Ken Welter wrote:
[FlyRotary] Re: [FlyRotary]2002 crash of
Taylor Coot w/13b
Yes I knew
the pilot of that coot very well and the engine installation was a
compleat abortion and the coot was tail heavy and I knew it by just
looking at it despite what his calculation were.
On the first
taxi run that he got the nose wheel up it jumped in the air and with
full stick forward he could not get the nose down so it stalled about
10 ft off the ground on landing it folded up two of the
gear.
He then
repaired the plane and wanted me to fly it for him and I said no way
its tail heavy and he still refused to believe me.
He then went
out and tried to fly it and right after liftoff the engine caught fire
and quit, then the coot stalled and pancaked in and went up in a ball
of fire.
What I
suspect the fire was from was a cheep ass piece of crap oil cooled
that he got at a local auto parts store in which I told him would not
holed up to the high oil pressure and volume out the
Mazda.
Another thing
was that the oil cooler was mounted in the cowl ahead of the cheep
exhaust system made from standard exhaust pipe and muffler from Napa
which I told he would not hole up to the Mazda
temps.
This is
really just the tip of the iceberg as I could go on and on, just say
this plane was an accident looking for a place to
happen.
Ken
Welter
Tom, as best I recall, Ken Welter
reported that the Taylor Coot had an "aft
cg problem" before it flew and Ken had warned the pilot that the
aft cg
could produce an unrecoverable stall condition. I believe he was
also
warned that if the engine ever quite with that rear CG - an
unrecoverable
stall would immediately happen. So with that initial aft CG
condition and
the subsequent engine stoppage and resulting rearward drag caused by
a
stopped propeller precluded any recovery from the induced
stall. The
cause of the engine stoppage was reportedly due to an oil cooler (not
stock
Mazda) that burst which led to a loss of the oil and the engine
eventually
seizing - from which there was no recovery.
Unfortunately the NTSB knew nothing about rotary engines, so they went
to a
local Mazda dealer (who probably did not know much more) and because
the oil
injection lines had been removed from the engine (and the side
housings were
reportedly "blued" from the heat of no lubrication) the NTSB
quickly jumped
on that as the cause of failure. Of course no injected oil
might cause
your apex and possibly your corner seals to wear faster than normal
but
would not cause the engine to seize. So the NTSB missed it on
this one.
Unfortunately, here was an accident that did not have to happen.
But, when
a person disregards well intended warnings - there is little anyone
can do.
Ed Anderson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom" <tomtugan@yahoo.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:38 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [FlyRotary]2002 crash of Taylor Coot
w/13b
> Perry, now that you describe it, seems that I did read something
about an
> incident like that somewhere. Yes, I noticed the hole in
the NTSB last
> paragraph.
> Tom
>
> --- Perry Mick <pjmick@viclink.com>
wrote:
> > If Ken Welter is still on this list, he can fill you in.
Basically the
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