Return-Path: Received: from marvkaye.olsusa.com ([207.30.195.69]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70783U4500L450S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 00:46:55 -0500 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010304005530.040dd080@olsusa.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 00:55:44 -0500 To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: CasaDeHate@aol.com (by way of Marvin Kaye ) Subject: Violent Wing Drop at Stall X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> The Lancair aircraft are intolerant of pilot inattention in slow flight and particularily during stalls. I stress to all pilots that I check out that the one thing that will cause them bodily harm is cross controlling the aircraft at low speeds (stalls). The most important items in stall testing in these aircraft are to proceed with caution, start with power COMPLETELY OFF and KEEP THE BALL IN THE MIDDLE. Once you have mastered this, then proceed with testing with partial power before trying them with massive amounts of TORQUE. Remember that we are flying a wing dthat is not designed for slow speed characteristics like the old Clark Y airfoil in early training aricraft. Tis extremely difficult to remind oneself that their primary objective was to drain the swamp, when they are up to their ass in alligators... Get good training, then get LOTS of altitude before attempting stalls in your Lancair. For most of my experiences they fall off straight ahead with power off, and do a bit of torque roll with power on. All bets are off on Iv's with winglets, they are a special breed unto themselves, and any mis-alignment will cause unknown results. One I tested at great length demonstrated flow reversal just before the break which was predictable after a few tries. It always broke nose down and to the right, every time, but always with the ball in the middle. I took one of the Flight Craft instructors up with me in 409L after they complained that the airplane would "always" go inverted in a power off stall, we went up and I repeatedly had the airplane stall (very docile and predictable) staight ahead every time, wings level, ball in the middle. I could stall 409L and hold the stick fully aft in a fully developed stall and it did not demonstrate any tendancy to roll over on its back and play turtle. But, I kept the ball in the MIDDLE... Remember PLEASE, you are flying a high performance wing, not unlike some of the business jets out there, and they do not go out and stall them..... Fly SMART and SAFE.. Mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>