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From: "Ted Stanley" <direct@vineyard.net>
To: "LML reply address" <lancair.list@olsusa.com>
Subject: Re: First Flight Questions
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 00:36:16 -0500
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Mike - 

I agree with Scott Krueger. EAA is about as valuable resource as you'll
find in this regard.

If you have a problem when operating outside of the rules and regulations
your a dead duck as far as your license goes and likely your insurance
agent won't even know you. The regs can be a real pain in the bewtocks but
many of them were written with blood.

Advisory Circulars while informative don't always hold the force of law and
inspectors are not in any way bound by their contents. It's seems that
often inspectors use the information in ACs to have something to "hang
their hat on" when needed.

On the other hand, inspectors more often, when confronted with something
they are either uncomfortable with or unsure of, rely upon the information
contained within their "guidance". This takes the form of FAA "Orders". A
listing of these Orders is a master document of more than 30 pages of fine
print. An inspector can use his/her discretion and take action outside of
the parameters of the Orders but most won't go that far. Keep in mind too
that just because an Order says an inspector can do something that doesn't
mean they are obligated to do it. 

I don't profess to know the answer to your question since I haven't done
any reasearch on it but I'd recommend that you go to:

http://www.aea200.ea.faa.gov/ea01/acsamateur.htm

and research the item below which is available at the web site above. 

FAA Order 8130.2D Airworthiness Certification of Aircraft and Related
Products dated 9/30/99 (with Change 1 incorporated 2/15/00) establishes
procedures for accomplishing original and recurrent airworthiness
certification of aircraft and related products, including amateur-built
aircraft. The procedures contained in this order apply to both Aircraft
Certification Manufacturing and Flight Standards Airworthiness Aviation
Safety Inspectors, and to private persons/organizations delegated authority
to issue airworthiness certificates and related approvals.  Chapter 4,
Section 1 provides general guidance material associated with special
airworthiness certification.   Chapter 4, Section 7 provides specific
information for special airworthiness certification of experimental
amateur-built aircraft.

By the way to everyone ....... the web site I've mentioned is a valuable
resource site. It has all the ACs pertaining to experimental aircraft PLUS
downloadable forms with examples of how they should be filled out. 

Good Luck.

Ted Stanley
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