Return-Path: Received: from marvkaye.olsusa.com ([205.245.9.229]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-44819U2500L250S0) with SMTP id AAA25323 for ; Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:55:17 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981015005435.00d93e34@olsusa.com> Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 00:54:35 -0400 To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: "Douglas L. Dodson, Jr." <73773.1546@compuserve.com> (by way of Marvin Kaye ) Subject: Fuel System Question X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> To Bill Gradwohl: >>Why won't this work? What have I forgotten? Which one of my assumptions is incorrect? << What you are missing in your basic system (two wing tanks plumbed into a small plenum which in turn feeds the boost pump and engine) is that a pump will suck air uphill better than fuel. If air is available at the pickup in the plenum, then that is what the pump will draw. Your system will be the functional equivalent of a single tank with a single sump and pickup if you make sure the top of the pickup is lower than the bottom feed point of BOTH wing tanks. This will work as well as the single tank running tip to tip featured in my Glasair. Extra features such as redundant pumps, check valves, and cutoff valves may or may not add safety or utility, but the basic design will work as long as the pickup point is below all feed points in any reasonable flight attitude. This will not work without the plenum tank. Using only 3/8" lines (or whatever) will undoubtedly get air started in the lines and that is what will continue to feed. A very similar solution would be to put in a crossover line and feed from only one or the other wing sump. This will very likely increase the amount of unusable fuel, however. Watch out using check valves and be sure to vent the system properly. Remember, air and fuel must be able to enter and exit each space to allow for fuel consumption, pressure changes from temperature variations on the ground and changing altitude. The top of your plenum will need to be vented into one (maybe both) wing tanks to prevent an air pocket from expanding and interrupting fuel flow and also prevent head pressure of full wing tanks from over-filling the plenum. This is getting more complicated isn't it? I still believe that the best solution would be to just have a left/right/off valve (like Piper and Mooney) which feeds the pump. !^NavFont02F05FB000B61GVHGWHLFD8E28 - Doug Dodson Glasair II-S FT Flight Test Engineer, CFI-A,G Baby Dragon IF1 Race Team