Return-Path: Received: from smtp.abac.com ([216.55.128.5]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-70783U4500L450S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 13:25:43 -0500 Received: from Xi (sd-ppp-162.abac.net [216.55.130.62]) by smtp.abac.com (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id f0UIYG334029 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:34:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4.1.20010130084430.00a06f00@mail1.abac.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 10:20:56 -0800 To: From: Guy Buchanan Subject: Micro Fillets (long) In-Reply-To: <20010130053819.AAA5943@ns1.olsusa.com> X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> There appears to be some misconceptions regarding the purpose of, and loads in, fillets in bonded "T" or angle joints. In theory the joint only takes loads along its edge, (shear,) or is pushed together, (compression,) and never takes a load in bending or tension. (You can design joints for significant bending or tension, but that is another story.) Again in theory the compression load is transferred by direct contact of the skin face against the rib edges, (assuming a perfect fit,) and the shear load is transferred through either taping or some other adhesion. If the shear load is transferred by taping then no fillet is required. (Again, in theory.) In practice, the rib doesn't fit well enough to bear directly against the skin, the joint often takes some tension or bending, and one finds it impossible to push taping into perfect right angle corners. (The taping must be attached to something to prevent shear buckling, without a fillet it has to adopt a perfect angle, a difficult proposition at best.) The fillet is used to solve these difficulties. In compression the fillet serves to bridge the irregularities of the fit between rib and skin. In tension and bending the fillet serves as the only tie between rib and skin, (since the peel strength of the taping is considered negligible.) In shear the fillet stabilizes the taping at a practically achievable radius. The tension load is our greatest concern here. (I will presume there are few instances of joint bending in the Lancair.) As I said, the taping helps little with tension, since under tension it peels readily. It is therefore the fillet which does the majority of the work keeping the rib on the skin. There is nearly a linear relationship between fillet size and joint tension capability. There is also nearly a linear relationship between fillet tensile strength and joint tension capability. You therefore should be very careful when constructing fillets from what you call "micro" as it has very poor tensile strength. Even worse, it has incredibly poor fatigue resistance, being in essence a brittle structure with built-in occlusions. The big question is, how strong should the fillet be? The answer is, I have no idea! (Very useful.) So why the lecture? Simply to remind everybody to be wary when making structural modifications. You must make certain that your modification has all of the life and strength of the original design, under all environmental conditions. You do this through analysis, (computers, thought experiments, whatever,) experiment, (meaning someone else tried it and hasn't crashed in X thousand hours,) or just plain dumb luck. Good luck, Guy Buchanan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>