Return-Path: Received: from sam.the-i.net ([206.136.176.251]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 11:01:04 -0500 Received: from pavilion (ccb200.the-i.net [206.136.177.200]) by sam.the-i.net (Vircom SMTPRS 4.4.184) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:08:25 -0600 Message-ID: <001301c04fe8$352b21c0$c8b188ce@pavilion> From: "J. N. Cameron" To: "Lancair List" Subject: Nose-heaviness in the ES -- mystery solved? Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 10:13:47 -0600 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Here's a great example of why following the (badly outdated) manuals is not always a good idea. I've just finished putting my wings in place on my FB ES. [Note: The wing mating option, I think, is gone -- all the FB's now have it.] After putting my 3/4" stainless pins in place, which I use up until final assembly to save the wing bolts, I checked the incidence angle of the wing. The manual calls for +2 degrees, and lo and behold, the actual angle is +0.6 to +0.7 degrees. Short of tearing out the shear box and building it all over again, you're stuck with whatever the factory jigs give you. My last ES, by the way, was similar, although I can't recall the exact incidence angle. Now, the interesting part. If you follow the manual, you will already have bonded your HStab in place before fitting the wings on. The manual calls for a 0 degree incidence angle for the HStab, although the recent advice from the factory is "anywhere from 0 to -0.6", with the latter number preferred. Let's say you follow the manual that's still being supplied, set your HStab incidence to 0 degrees, then fit the wings later. The relative incidence of the HStab relative to the wings will now be about -0.7, whereas if everything is the way it's supposed to be (+2 for wings, 0 to -0.6 for HStab) the relative incidence should be -2 to -2.6 degrees. In other words, following the manual sequence will result in a plane that's out of rig, with the whole HStab exerting a down trim force. So, if you've got a FB ES, fit your wings on, check the incidence, then set the HStab to give the right incidence relative to whatever the wings turn out to be. The worst you'll have is a fuselage that's angled a degree or so up or down, but that should have a lot less influence on flying qualities than an out-of-rig HStab. I have a hunch that the reason the factory changed their advice on HStab incidence is that the wing incidence is too low; canting the HStab down a bit would compensate and help counter the "nose-heavy" feel of a lot of the completed ES's. Some builders have also increased the size of the elevator trim tab, but again, with the right incidence angles, it's probably not needed. The "nose-heavy" feel is probably nothing to do with weight -- with the battery in back, the c.g. comes out right within the design envelope, even with the IO-550 and the Hartzell prop. Now, if we could get the jigs tweaked the right way, and the manual re-written . . . (are you guys listening up there?) Jim Cameron, ES #2 in progress >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>