X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 09:50:22 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com ([64.12.222.129] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6953186 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 22:44:14 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.222.129; envelope-from=rwolf99@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-mbe01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbe01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.175]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 345F870000090 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 22:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mie002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mie002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.104.130]) by mtaomg-mbe01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E5D7738000081 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 22:43:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: iPad X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: rwolf99@aol.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8D15FC8B9987C88_3624_5BB65_webmail-m273.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail STANDARD Received: from 75.171.140.194 by webmail-m273.sysops.aol.com (64.12.145.236) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 26 Jun 2014 22:43:34 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8D15FC8B97E4D5D-3624-1AA46@webmail-m273.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [75.171.140.194] X-Original-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 22:43:34 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afeaf53acda5606fb This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8D15FC8B9987C88_3624_5BB65_webmail-m273.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" <> <> I'm on the same page as these guys, but I admit I'm a dinosaur. My job gav= e me the opportunity to go to Jeppesen Galactic HQ (which is right down the= street here in Denver) a few months ago. They showed me some eye-watering= technology. Like, having the GPS show you a little airplane on an approac= h plate so you don't have to do mental gymnastics to figure out where you a= re. Charts that you can magnify so I don't need these dang reading glasses= . Truly awesome stuff! Screens ten times the size of a Garmin 430, which = used to be the coolest thing ever. But then I realized it's on an iPad or iPad mini (my sister-in-law says "Do= n't be calling it a Mini Pad!") and I choked at the thought of people using= consumer-grade stuff in an aviation environment. Yikes! There's a reason= why DO178 and TSOs exist. When was the last time your KX-155 crapped out = due to environmental factors? Probably never. The iPad? Probably yesterd= ay or last weekend. But this stuff is really cool and I hope there's a way we can get a ruggedi= zed platform to run them, like they did when IBM PCs first came out. Rugge= dized laptops, ruggedized chassis. Heck, I think there were TSOd radar dis= plays 15 years ago that were just IBM PCs mounted to the panel. (Gives a w= hole new meaning to "blue screen of death", doesn't it?) This is what Angier is asking for, what Hamid is warning us that we need, a= nd that I'd be willing to buy. So, what's out there, guys? Anything rugged enough for the aviation enviro= nment yet, at prices that 320 builders can afford? Not the Legacy and 4P g= uys -- they can afford anything! (That last item is just a joke. I salute= and envy you Legacy and 4P guys!) - Rob Wolf ----------MB_8D15FC8B9987C88_3624_5BB65_webmail-m273.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
<<This happened to me today and does not inspire con= fidence in the =E2=80=98electronic flight bag=E2=80=99!>>
<<This is why an iPad is not an "Electronic Flight Bag" and neve= r will be, despite the claims to the contrary by those who do not know any = better.>>
 
I'm on the same page as these guys, but I admit I'm a dinosaur.  = My job gave me the opportunity to go to Jeppesen Galactic HQ (which is righ= t down the street here in Denver) a few months ago.  They showed me so= me eye-watering technology.  Like, having the GPS show you a little ai= rplane on an approach plate so you don't have to do mental gymnastics to fi= gure out where you are.  Charts that you can magnify so I don't need t= hese dang reading glasses.  Truly awesome stuff!  Screens ten tim= es the size of a Garmin 430, which used to be the coolest thing ever.
 
But then I realized it's on an iPad or iPad mini (my sister-in-law say= s "Don't be calling it a Mini Pad!") and I choked at the thought of people = using consumer-grade stuff in an aviation environment.  Yikes!  T= here's a reason why DO178 and TSOs exist.  When was the last time your= KX-155 crapped out due to environmental factors?  Probably never.&nbs= p; The iPad?  Probably yesterday or last weekend.
 
But this stuff is really cool and I hope there's a way we can get a ru= ggedized platform to run them, like they did when IBM PCs first came out.&n= bsp; Ruggedized laptops, ruggedized chassis.  Heck, I think there were= TSOd radar displays 15 years ago that were just IBM PCs mounted to th= e panel.  (Gives a whole new meaning to "blue screen of death", doesn'= t it?)
 
This is what Angier is asking for, what Hamid is warning us that we ne= ed, and that I'd be willing to buy.
 
So, what's out there, guys?  Anything rugged enough for the aviat= ion environment yet, at prices that 320 builders can afford?  Not the = Legacy and 4P guys -- they can afford anything!  (That last item is ju= st a joke.  I salute and envy you Legacy and 4P guys!)
 
- Rob Wolf

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