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([2600:1015:b018:3f4e:6567:e81c:1fba:3a2a]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e70sm32040410yhk.9.2014.06.23.16.47.26 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 23 Jun 2014 16:47:31 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-D7AE95AE-E1C1-4600-9F94-F6CB800EA5AC X-Original-Message-Id: <7A6C84F8-D39B-4BE6-96A2-19E8AC1B9C36@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11D201) From: Earl Gmail Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Lancair Parking at Oshkosh X-Original-Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:47:24 -0500 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List --Apple-Mail-D7AE95AE-E1C1-4600-9F94-F6CB800EA5AC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those who do 'not' want to taxi, park etc on grass how about calling the= FBO (Basler - well in advance) and reserve a spot on their ramp. The Welco= me Wagon will gladly provide transportation to and from that area. (I have b= een doing that for several years) Those of us who have attended each year for 30+ years would appreciate retai= ning the 'smooth' flow of ground operations we have come to expect and need.= The volunteers have enough stress already... BTW, my runway is turf so grass is not new to me.. Respectively, Earl (just another Oshkosh volunteer) > On Jun 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Danny wrote: >=20 > Bob, > By all means call me (248-756-8048). I certainly can reposition on Sat. t= o be with the chosen ones. Paved parking is good because I refuse to taxi o= n the grass. I'll be sure to have my sign made up in advance too. >=20 > --- > Danny > LNC2-360 >=20 >> On 06/23/2014 01:43, Robert R Pastusek wrote: >> Thanks Danny, >> You'll likely be the first to arrive, so I may call you to get the >> lay of the land before we depart Manassas on Saturday. >> You'll likely also beat Jeannie Schneider there=E2=80=A6think she arrives= on >> Saturday. If you want to "park amongst the chosen few," how would you >> feel about repositioning on Saturday or Sunday? In any case, think >> we'll be parking on or near the paved parking pad at the end of >> taxiway P1; or perhaps in the grass area short of the pad=E2=80=A6 >> Bob >> FROM: Danny [mailto:danny@n107sd.com] >> SENT: Sunday, June 22, 2014 7:10 AM >> TO: 'Lancair Mailing List'; Robert R Pastusek >> SUBJECT: RE: [LML] Lancair Parking at Oshkosh >> Bob, >> N107SD plans to arrive Friday, July 25th. I have to be there early to >> receive the trailer I rented and get it placed. >> Danny Miller >> LNC2-360 Mk-II >> AOPA 04856278 >> EAA 647062 >> NRA 156453324 >> Nothing is foolproof to the sufficiently talented fool. >> FROM: Robert R Pastusek [mailto:rpastusek@htii.com] >> SENT: Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:42 PM >> TO: Lancair Mailing List >> SUBJECT: [LML] Lancair Parking at Oshkosh >> Gentlemen, >> This just in from Jeannie Schneider, the homebuilt parking area >> manager at AirVenture: >> The homebuilt parking area on the west side of the long north/south >> taxiway will be reduced this year because of the set-back requirements >> for the Thunderbird airshow. Jeannie advises that her team will >> designate and try to hold an area off taxiway P1 for Lancairs. This is >> just to the north and west of the area we've traditionally used. (For >> those who have been there before, the east end of taxiway P1 is where >> Lancair and other companies staged demo flights in past years. No >> guarantee of a parking place in our "designated area," depending on >> when you arrive, but they will do their best. See advice below if they >> are sending you elsewhere after arrival=E2=80=A6 >> There is a large paved pad at the west end of taxiway P1. It doesn't >> have room for all of the Lancairs after she parks the EVOs and other >> larger aircraft that need to park on a hard surface. I suggest we ask >> Jeannie to put the EVOs on the pavement and the rest of us off the >> pavement in the immediate vicinity. Your feedback on this area >> appreciated ASAP. I also suggest you shut down on the hard surface, or >> immediately after pulling in the grass if required, and let us push >> you where you need to go. Not only does it take a lot of power to taxi >> in the grass--more if in the mud!!--but the chance of a prop strike is >> just not worth it. >> Jeannie suggests that you make a sign that says "HBP LANCAIRS" instead >> of the standard "HBP," for display after clearing the runway. Also, >> signs made with a pencil on brown cardboard just don't cut it=E2=80=A6mak= e >> the lettering as large as possible, black letters on white paper=E2=80=A6= >> Another suggestion from yours truly--if you're not being directed to >> where you want to go, follow the flagmen/flagwomen anyway--to wherever >> they want to take you. Shut down and then advise Jeannie's crew where >> you really want to go. They will get you there! Verbally negotiating a >> taxi route from the cockpit of a running Lancair works about as well >> as the hand-lettered cardboard signs=E2=80=A6just saying=E2=80=A6 >> Some other points: read the AirVenture Oshkosh NOTAM, and bring a copy >> along in the airplane if you're planning to fly in. A good, qualified >> observer is really handy to have, especially if you encounter one of >> those aviators who decides at the last minute to fly over and check >> out the activity at Whitman Field, but didn't bother to read the >> NOTAM--"what NOTAM=E2=80=A6" According to the controllers, they get 2-3 o= f >> these PER DAY during AirVenture. These fellows tend to scatter the >> otherwise orderly arrival flow all over Wisconsin in a dis-orderly >> fashion. Also consider using the "Warbird Arrival" and keep the speed >> up. Be prepared/plan to be diverted or put in holding=E2=80=A6for an >> extended period if there is an accident. >> And to repeat, do your best to comply with the air and ground >> controllers' instructions. It's easy to fly over from Appleton after >> the dust settles-literally, or to taxi to the desired parking >> area=E2=80=A6unless you land at the seaplane base. >> Judy and I look forward to seeing you there! If you'll send me your >> name(s), tail number and arrival date, I'll post a consolidated list >> to the LML and pass it to Jeannie. She's promised to take care of all >> Lancairs who let her know they are coming-especially those who bring >> tribute! J >> Bob Pastusek >> N437RP, a Lancair IV-P >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.htm= l --Apple-Mail-D7AE95AE-E1C1-4600-9F94-F6CB800EA5AC Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For those who do 'not' want to taxi, p= ark etc on grass how about calling the FBO (Basler - well in advance) and re= serve a spot on their ramp.  The Welcome Wagon will gladly provide tran= sportation to and from that area.  (I have been doing that for several y= ears)

Those of us who have attended each year for 3= 0+ years would appreciate retaining the 'smooth' flow of ground operations w= e have come to expect and need.  The volunteers have enough stress alre= ady...

BTW, my runway is turf so grass is not new t= o me..

Respectively, Earl (just another Oshkosh vol= unteer)

<= tr>




On Jun 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, Danny <danny@n107sd.com> wrote:

Bob,
By all means call me (248-75= 6-8048).  I certainly can reposition on Sat. to be with the chosen ones= .  Paved parking is good because I refuse to taxi on the grass.  I= 'll be sure to have my sign made up in advance too.
<= br>---
Danny
LNC2-360
=
On 06/23/2014 01:43, Robert R Pastusek wrote:
Thanks Danny,
You'll likely be the first to arrive, so I may call y= ou to get the
lay of t= he land before we depart Manassas on Saturday.
You'll likely also beat Jeannie Schneider there=E2= =80=A6think she arrives on
= Saturday. If you want to "park amongst the chosen few," how would you<= /span>
feel about reposition= ing on Saturday or Sunday? In any case, think
we'll be parking on or near the paved parking pad a= t the end of
taxiway P= 1; or perhaps in the grass area short of the pad=E2=80=A6
Bob
FROM: Danny [mailto:d= anny@n107sd.com]
= SENT: Sunday, June 22, 2014 7:10 AM
TO: 'Lancair Mailing List'; Robert R Pastusek
SUBJECT: RE: [LML] Lancair Parkin= g at Oshkosh
Bob,
N107SD plans to arrive Fri= day, July 25th. I have to be there early to
receive the trailer I rented and get it placed.
Danny Miller
LNC2-360 Mk-II
AOPA 04856278
EAA 647062
NRA 156453324
Nothing is foolproof to the sufficiently talented fool.
FROM: Robert R Pastusek [mailto:rpastusek@htii.com]
<= /blockquote>
SENT: Saturday, June 21, 2014 6= :42 PM
TO: Lancair M= ailing List
SUBJECT:= [LML] Lancair Parking at Oshkosh
Gentlemen,
This just in from Jeannie Schneider, the homebuilt parking area
manager at AirVenture:<= br>
The homebuilt parking area o= n the west side of the long north/south
taxiway will be reduced this year because of the set-back= requirements
for the= Thunderbird airshow. Jeannie advises that her team will
designate and try to hold an area off ta= xiway P1 for Lancairs. This is
just to the north and west of the area we've traditionally used. (= For
those who have be= en there before, the east end of taxiway P1 is where
=
Lancair and other companies staged demo flig= hts in past years. No
guarantee of a parking place in our "designated area," depending on<= br>
when you arrive, but they wi= ll do their best. See advice below if they
are sending you elsewhere after arrival=E2=80=A6
There is a large paved pad= at the west end of taxiway P1. It doesn't
have room for all of the Lancairs after she parks the E= VOs and other
larger a= ircraft that need to park on a hard surface. I suggest we ask
Jeannie to put the EVOs on the pave= ment and the rest of us off the
pavement in the immediate vicinity. Your feedback on this area
appreciated ASAP. I als= o suggest you shut down on the hard surface, or
immediately after pulling in the grass if require= d, and let us push
yo= u where you need to go. Not only does it take a lot of power to taxi<= br>
in the grass--more if in the= mud!!--but the chance of a prop strike is
just not worth it.
Jeannie suggests that you make a sign that says "HBP LANC= AIRS" instead
of the s= tandard "HBP," for display after clearing the runway. Also,
signs made with a pencil on brown car= dboard just don't cut it=E2=80=A6make
the lettering as large as possible, black letters on white p= aper=E2=80=A6
Another= suggestion from yours truly--if you're not being directed to
where you want to go, follow the fl= agmen/flagwomen anyway--to wherever
they want to take you. Shut down and then advise Jeannie's crew= where
you really wan= t to go. They will get you there! Verbally negotiating a
taxi route from the cockpit of a running= Lancair works about as well
as the hand-lettered cardboard signs=E2=80=A6just saying=E2=80=A6
Some other points: read= the AirVenture Oshkosh NOTAM, and bring a copy
along in the airplane if you're planning to fly i= n. A good, qualified
= observer is really handy to have, especially if you encounter one of<= br>
those aviators who decides a= t the last minute to fly over and check
out the activity at Whitman Field, but didn't bother to r= ead the
NOTAM--"what N= OTAM=E2=80=A6" According to the controllers, they get 2-3 of
these PER DAY during AirVenture. The= se fellows tend to scatter the
otherwise orderly arrival flow all over Wisconsin in a dis-orderly=
fashion. Also consid= er using the "Warbird Arrival" and keep the speed
up. Be prepared/plan to be diverted or put in h= olding=E2=80=A6for an
extended period if there is an accident.
And to repeat, do your best to comply with the air and g= round
controllers' in= structions. It's easy to fly over from Appleton after
the dust settles-literally, or to taxi to t= he desired parking
ar= ea=E2=80=A6unless you land at the seaplane base.
Judy and I look forward to seeing you there! If y= ou'll send me your
na= me(s), tail number and arrival date, I'll post a consolidated list
to the LML and pass it to Jean= nie. She's promised to take care of all
Lancairs who let her know they are coming-especially thos= e who bring
tribute! J=
Bob Pastusek<= br>
N437RP, a Lancair IV-P

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