X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [207.46.163.189] (HELO na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6948129 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 08:34:08 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.46.163.189; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com Received: from BY2PR07MB550.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.217.145) by BY2PR07MB550.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.217.145) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.969.15; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:33:29 +0000 Received: from BY2PR07MB550.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.217.145]) by BY2PR07MB550.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.217.145]) with mapi id 15.00.0969.007; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:33:28 +0000 From: Robert R Pastusek To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Lancair Parking at Oshkosh Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: Lancair Parking at Oshkosh Thread-Index: AQHPjtWqCLtrJZawRkmbqbxZKpPyf5uAMbZA Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 12:33:28 +0000 Message-ID: <0f210c04153849dbb0f9c41a5bfed191@BY2PR07MB550.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [178.76.129.194] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 02524402D6 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(43544003)(37804002)(199002)(189002)(377454003)(51414003)(81542001)(85306003)(4396001)(76482001)(74316001)(19300405004)(19625215002)(106116001)(21056001)(99396002)(95666004)(46102001)(76576001)(77982001)(15975445006)(79102001)(101416001)(15202345003)(86362001)(85852003)(19580405001)(19580395003)(83322001)(83072002)(80022001)(33646001)(74502001)(76176999)(92566001)(50986999)(2656002)(54356999)(31966008)(105586002)(106356001)(64706001)(87936001)(81342001)(74662001)(99286002)(66066001)(16236675004)(20776003)(24736002)(106276001);DIR:OUT;SFP:;SCL:1;SRVR:BY2PR07MB550;H:BY2PR07MB550.namprd07.prod.outlook.com;FPR:;MLV:sfv;PTR:InfoNoRecords;A:1;MX:1;LANG:en; Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_0f210c04153849dbb0f9c41a5bfed191BY2PR07MB550namprd07pro_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: htii.com --_000_0f210c04153849dbb0f9c41a5bfed191BY2PR07MB550namprd07pro_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Got it. See you there on Saturday. Bob From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Dann= y Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 7:24 AM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair Parking at Oshkosh Bob, N107SD plans to arrive Friday, July 25th. I have to be there early to rece= ive the trailer I rented at get it placed. Danny Miller LNC2-360 Mk-II AOPA 04856278 EAA 647062 NRA 156453324 Nothing is foolproof to the sufficiently talented fool. From: Robert R Pastusek [mailto:rpastusek@htii.com] Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:42 PM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Lancair Parking at Oshkosh Gentlemen, This just in from Jeannie Schneider, the homebuilt parking area manager at = AirVenture: The homebuilt parking area on the west side of the long north/south taxiway= will be reduced this year because of the set-back requirements for the Thu= nderbird airshow. Jeannie advises that her team will designate and try to h= old an area off taxiway P1 for Lancairs. This is just to the north and west= of the area we've traditionally used. (For those who have been there befor= e, the east end of taxiway P1 is where Lancair and other companies staged d= emo flights in past years. No guarantee of a parking place in our "designat= ed area," depending on when you arrive, but they will do their best. See ad= vice below if they are sending you elsewhere after arrival... There is a large paved pad at the west end of taxiway P1. It doesn't have r= oom for all of the Lancairs after she parks the EVOs and other larger aircr= aft that need to park on a hard surface. I suggest we ask Jeannie to put th= e EVOs on the pavement and the rest of us off the pavement in the immediate= vicinity. Your feedback on this area appreciated ASAP. I also suggest you = shut down on the hard surface, or immediately after pulling in the grass if= required, and let us push you where you need to go. Not only does it take = a lot of power to taxi in the grass--more if in the mud!!--but the chance o= f a prop strike is just not worth it. Jeannie suggests that you make a sign that says "HBP LANCAIRS" instead of t= he standard "HBP," for display after clearing the runway. Also, signs made = with a pencil on brown cardboard just don't cut it...make the lettering as = large as possible, black letters on white paper... Another suggestion from = yours truly--if you're not being directed to where you want to go, follow t= he flagmen/flagwomen anyway--to wherever they want to take you. Shut down a= nd then advise Jeannie's crew where you really want to go. They will get yo= u there! Verbally negotiating a taxi route from the cockpit of a running La= ncair works about as well as the hand-lettered cardboard signs...just sayin= g... Some other points: read the AirVenture Oshkosh NOTAM, and bring a copy alon= g in the airplane if you're planning to fly in. A good, qualified observer = is really handy to have, especially if you encounter one of those aviators = who decides at the last minute to fly over and check out the activity at Wh= itman Field, but didn't bother to read the NOTAM--"what NOTAM..." According= to the controllers, they get 2-3 of these PER DAY during AirVenture. These= fellows tend to scatter the otherwise orderly arrival flow all over Wiscon= sin in a dis-orderly fashion. Also consider using the "Warbird Arrival" and= keep the speed up. Be prepared/plan to be diverted or put in holding...for= an extended period if there is an accident. And to repeat, do your best to comply with the air and ground controllers' = instructions. It's easy to fly over from Appleton after the dust settles-li= terally, or to taxi to the desired parking area...unless you land at the se= aplane base. Judy and I look forward to seeing you there! If you'll send me your name(s)= , tail number and arrival date, I'll post a consolidated list to the LML an= d pass it to Jeannie. She's promised to take care of all Lancairs who let = her know they are coming-especially those who bring tribute! :) Bob Pastusek N437RP, a Lancair IV-P --_000_0f210c04153849dbb0f9c41a5bfed191BY2PR07MB550namprd07pro_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Got it. See you there on Saturday.


Bob

 

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Danny
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2014 7:24 AM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair Parking at Oshkosh

 

Bob,=

N107SD plans to arrive= Friday, July 25th.  I have to be there early to receive th= e trailer I rented at get it placed.

 

Danny Miller

LNC2-= 360 Mk-II

AOPA = 04856278

EAA 6= 47062

NRA 1= 56453324

Nothi= ng is foolproof to the sufficiently talented fool.

 

From: Robert R Pastusek [mailto:rpastusek@htii.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:42 PM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Lancair Parking at Oshkosh

 

Gentlemen,

 <= /p>

This just in from Jeannie= Schneider, the homebuilt parking area manager at AirVenture:

 <= /p>

The homebuilt parking are= a on the west side of the long north/south taxiway will be reduced this yea= r because of the set-back requirements for the Thunderbird airshow. Jeannie advises that her team will designate and try to hold an a= rea off taxiway P1 for Lancairs. This is just to the north and west of the = area we’ve traditionally used. (For those who have been there before,= the east end of taxiway P1 is where Lancair and other companies staged demo flights in past years. No guarantee of a p= arking place in our “designated area,” depending on when you ar= rive, but they will do their best. See advice below if they are sending you= elsewhere after arrival…

 <= /p>

There is a large paved pa= d at the west end of taxiway P1. It doesn’t have room for all of the = Lancairs after she parks the EVOs and other larger aircraft that need to park on a hard surface. I suggest we ask Jeannie to put the EVOs o= n the pavement and the rest of us off the pavement in the immediate vicinit= y. Your feedback on this area appreciated ASAP. I also suggest you shut dow= n on the hard surface, or immediately after pulling in the grass if required, and let us push you where you need= to go. Not only does it take a lot of power to taxi in the grass--more if = in the mud!!--but the chance of a prop strike is just not worth it.

 <= /p>

Jeannie suggests that you= make a sign that says “HBP LANCAIRS” instead of the standard &= #8220;HBP,” for display after clearing the runway. Also, signs made w= ith a pencil on brown cardboard just don’t cut it…make the lettering= as large as possible, black letters on white paper… Another suggesti= on from yours truly--if you’re not being directed to where you want t= o go, follow the flagmen/flagwomen anyway--to wherever they want to take you. Shut down and then advise Jeannie’s crew where you= really want to go. They will get you there! Verbally negotiating a taxi ro= ute from the cockpit of a running Lancair works about as well as the hand-l= ettered cardboard signs…just saying…

 <= /p>

Some other points: read t= he AirVenture Oshkosh NOTAM, and bring a copy along in the airplane if you&= #8217;re planning to fly in. A good, qualified observer is really handy to have, especially if you encounter one of those aviators who decid= es at the last minute to fly over and check out the activity at Whitman Fie= ld, but didn’t bother to read the NOTAM--“what NOTAM…R= 21; According to the controllers, they get 2-3 of these PER DAY during AirVenture. These fellows tend to scatter the otherwise ord= erly arrival flow all over Wisconsin in a dis-orderly fashion. Also conside= r using the “Warbird Arrival” and keep the speed up. Be prepare= d/plan to be diverted or put in holding…for an extended period if there is an accident.

 <= /p>

And to repeat, do your be= st to comply with the air and ground controllers’ instructions. It= 217;s easy to fly over from Appleton after the dust settles-literally, or to taxi to the desired parking area…unless you land at the seapla= ne base.

 <= /p>

Judy and I look forward t= o seeing you there! If you’ll send me your name(s), tail number and a= rrival date, I’ll post a consolidated list to the LML and pass it to Jeannie.  She’s promised to take care of all Lancairs who= let her know they are coming-especially those who bring tribute!  J

 <= /p>

Bob Pastusek

N437RP, a Lancair IV-P

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