X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 19:28:53 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm37-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([72.30.238.202] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6947165 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 15:12:40 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=72.30.238.202; envelope-from=chris_zavatson@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm37.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2014 19:12:04 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.13] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2014 19:12:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2014 19:12:04 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 142755.7337.bm@smtp113.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 6af55xYVM1npfN63r6T_ccLG.s87nXcudiyZFKM7KaTi69w a9XWP_Ofj7mdx34mzJWnX6_AFI6cyCuouQ4xZXJOU0h8lnDmvPwsyKJf44Qg VDPGvjmV5TeDdInqutkw_IYxEdORDuAAAYPsqxkezG5LU.U2vo.F1I3VecGE Hd3ZMGICKYbn68jxs16u.W4u3GiRO1boxHJcbDfYGtUP0SZPlGrdukLwCMRI flQYV7_V9F0QiT7AILkcNLc30vaZUJKeyU6mudt6_QYNGuiZRuPgMZAXzKkb x7_Gnr4aYfYWGDgogqf3mbmtPWAoYcpxgt5xLoYBySMsLulVwD93DOveg4zv JGtET_ikU6aLmSm9YUCRLLT3dbfEffWe3VnpcdLT2d4ktUsLgi0vax4OGfHh BEzL.RNul4jttPB1NZvdzantZc.5lHGeyyko7GxKAXLnVRxcOIzEIyAQYXXC RUmdvVrPz6EcEWT6MBwoaTTNwH02rwyykd.o6SDKMHeBjTF2kMXaAVcg0rlV BAQ4x6f9kD6Vj7jsfsXcYJJEFzNMWhLcxLDJilAu_Gf7CEqysddkrGRw_poq UvfDEe1yehSlGmnSxkn13HDvDK2CbZpCx_bmwFd_h X-Yahoo-SMTP: 076hgjCswBC.G6e0vm7vgvZ9JJ0zmeBo_Oyw X-Rocket-Received: from [10.137.47.22] (chris_zavatson@166.137.216.237 with xymcookie [216.39.61.254]) by smtp113.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 12:12:04 -0700 PDT Subject: Re: [LML] Bleeding the hydraulic system References: From: Chris Zavatston Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9A405) In-Reply-To: X-Original-Message-Id: <155F0768-DEC8-4CDF-B520-36D69FC964AC@yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 12:11:59 -0700 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) John, Despite the fact that all of our lines 'dead end', the system is self bleedi= ng and usually self priming. Technically the Oildyne instructions for primi= ng call for blocking off the return line so that fluid is drawn from the res= ervoir rather than air from the return line. It generally takes several (5-10) cycles to get all the air out of a complet= ely dry system. Trapped air will go into solution under pressure and then b= e released again when the system is depressurized. Eventually all the air is= released via the reservoir. Chris Zavatson N91CZ 360std www.N91CZ.net Sent from my spiffy iPhone On Jun 23, 2014, at 4:22 AM, John Cooper wrote: > I finished installing the new hydraulic pressure gauges a couple days ago a= nd have been trying to bleed the air out of the system ever since. I cracked= all the fittings at the main cylinders and bled out some strawberry fizz, b= ut there's still air in the system. When I open the dump valve, I can hear t= he air and fluid mix surging through the lines. I've filled the pump reservo= ir several times, but the gear still isn't coming up or down solidly. I can o= nly do so many cycles at a time without burning up the pump motor so after t= wo days the action is getting a little better, but not even close to being r= ight. Today I cycled the gear switch down and all three went down, but the p= ump kept running and the new LP pressure gauge read zero the entire time. Cy= cling the gear up only moves one of the mains partway up and the pump keeps r= unning again and the HP gauge reads zero. >=20 > With one of the mains blocked in the up position with a stick, I could man= ually push the other main open and closed with the dump valve closed. That c= ertainly doesn't seem right. (The nose gear didn't move during that exercise= ). I don't remember it being so hard to bleed the hydraulic system the first= time I did it. >=20 > Or maybe something else is wrong? I guess I could isolate the gear one at a= time to make sure a cylinder isn't leaking through at the piston seal, but i= t would have to be a massive leak, I think. I could also isolate all three g= ear and see if the pump, pressure switches, and my new pressure gauges are w= orking. Anybody have any ideas? >=20 > Here's a photo of the final installation of the pressure gauges in the cen= ter console: >=20 >