X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2014 12:17:43 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm44-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([216.109.114.254] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6924262 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 11:51:10 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.109.114.254; envelope-from=chris_zavatson@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm44.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jun 2014 15:50:36 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.221] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jun 2014 15:50:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jun 2014 15:50:36 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 885822.14367.bm@omp1030.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 66023 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jun 2014 15:50:36 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: S4M05QIVM1luH81agUovBGnxbL_1cmUSAGOsI_5fiURIlgG a.RIfgdcZEBQ8er78phjPIMq6mKvuuhtzB..ljlFVBC..kFap4o9wlvn2.O_ XYjjSjDB5qWxaOsK4pDfYS6jR98HtzM329NsXhUA8RM29Gr9lr4qlYsKIUj3 NeOfdmZlCMI9kfLRD1xcDkNM6kxOfqKAL5Qcr6hJWWZcZOr5IXnfmEN6zYu6 rvgTGjNDtOcz_Mi9tO8BMHHs6Tmotoz3HlXympFtmthZGEZiWasiH0.Ek_I2 xNYbg7nb9_5P5myH4BLgzrtPJs.r_daWQDQ9yb.9qxc1J0PbzaDzLwMKUB7d D4H0_v4TSurt1kTktZfr6U8sYQTkGDr4os9CiBcXWhgJoxNvfnt8MizJFGrF cezLvNAqurYHKQM.Hiwo2oitsmA7MTViaOIb9EXBR7vNirgDuDKHXN7KPA7d jSak7I0xrNDpLKPjRUzk8HoeLKpgYbl84dGjfk_ilvKoCr7AuCAPCJ5KKd5V Nlk2CHsfBjrRiAtAbtzSMV4kNEsdytgq7PoJHyHH4A7gdXBrggmIHOYu35WY w9h22BmaJ_kk149ntlOOscuU8np_qKqsH2iEC5mOcfj7Z.1LZCf_kJaxKrg3 9zdMuUJUTlxDwfeDTnZu5n4fiQY52bqeMjJGZcHizhgTFSoWAxVuUGJnXKkg 4.gRekKjUO9bQC0vP_KfBm0T4oqYy_7L1tA-- Received: from [172.14.16.72] by web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 07 Jun 2014 08:50:36 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,Sm9obiwKVGhlIGZhY3RvcnkgMzYwIGhhZCBzb21lIGNvcmUgbWF0ZXJpYWwgcmVtb3ZlZCBmcm9tIHRoZSB1cHBlciB3aW5nIHNraW4gZm9yIHRpcmUgY2xlYXJhbmNlLsKgIFRoZSB3b3VsZG4ndCBiZSBteSBmaXJzdCBjaG9pY2UgdGhvdWdoLsKgIENhbiB5b3UgcmVtb3ZlIGFueSBjb3JlIG1hdGVyaWFsIGZyb20gdGhlIGRvb3IgdG8gdHVjayBpdCBpbiBjbG9zZXIgdG8gdGhlIGdlYXI_wqAgCgpDaHJpcyBaYXZhdHNvbgpOOTFDWgozNjBzdGQKd3d3Lk45MUNaLm5ldCAKCgpPbiBTYXR1cmRheSwgSnVuZSABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.190.668 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1402156236.49082.YahooMailNeo@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 08:50:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Zavatson Reply-To: Chris Zavatson Subject: Re: [LML] [LNC2] MLG tires hitting upper wing skin X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1938299484-1457153010-1402156236=:49082" --1938299484-1457153010-1402156236=:49082 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John,=0AThe factory 360 had some core material removed from the upper wing = skin for tire clearance.=A0 The wouldn't be my first choice though.=A0 Can = you remove any core material from the door to tuck it in closer to the gear= ?=A0 =0A=0AChris Zavatson=0AN91CZ=0A360std=0Awww.N91CZ.net =0A=0A=0AOn Satu= rday, June 7, 2014 8:16 AM, John Cooper wrote:=0A= =0A=0A=0AAfter replacing the original Rosenhan brake calipers that came w= ith my =0AL-235 with new Matco B5-4 units, the tire now contacts the unders= ide of =0Athe upper wing skin just before the gear is fully retracted. As y= ou all =0Aknow, the brake mounting plates fit between the aluminum gear cas= ting =0Aand the axle. The old Rosenhan die-cast brake plates were .210 thic= k. =0AThe new Matco brake plates are only .125 thick, so I had to add shims= =0Abetween the casting and axle to keep the brake disc properly "centered"= =0Abetween the brake pads. On my latest installation, the distance between= =0Athe gear casting and the axle is now .310, which extends the wheel and = =0Atire out=A0 .100 more than before. The gear door is probably only .060 = =0Aaway from closing when the tire hits the underside of the upper wing =0A= skin, so the addition of the shims seems to have caused the problem.=0A=0AI= originally had 70 PSI in my Cheng Shen MLG tires and bled them down to =0A= 60 PSI but that didn't help.=0A=0AToday I will attempt to reduce the thickn= ess of the shims, but I fear =0Athat's not going to work because the new Ma= tco brake pads are thicker =0Athan the old Rosenhan pads and need more clea= rance to allow for wear.=0A=0ASo the only options I can think of at this po= int would be to 1. carve =0Aout a crescent of the upper wing skin core wher= e the tire it hitting, 2. =0Agrind down the ridge on the tire where the tre= ad meets the sidewall, 3. =0AReform the middle gear door, or 4. fly with th= e aft edge of the middle =0Agear door about 1/16" away from being flush.=0A= =0AHas anyone run into this problem? Any suggestions?=0A=0A=0A--=0AFor arch= ives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --1938299484-1457153010-1402156236=:49082 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
John,
The factory 360 had some core material removed fro= m the upper wing skin for tire clearance.  The wouldn't be my first ch= oice though.  Can you remove any core material from the door to tuck i= t in closer to the gear? 

Chris Zavatson
N91CZ<= /div>
360std
www.N91CZ.net


On Satu= rday, June 7, 2014 8:16 AM, John Cooper <snopercod@comporium.net> wro= te:


After replacing th= e original Rosenhan brake calipers that came with my
L-235 with new Mat= co B5-4 units, the tire now contacts the underside of
the upper wing sk= in just before the gear is fully retracted. As you all
know, the brake = mounting plates fit between the aluminum gear casting
and the axle. The= old Rosenhan die-cast brake plates were .210 thick.
The new Matco brak= e plates are only .125 thick, so I had to add shims
between the casting= and axle to keep the brake disc properly "centered"
between the brake = pads. On my latest installation, the distance between
the gear casting = and the axle is now .310, which extends the wheel and
tire out  .1= 00 more than before. The gear door is probably only .060
away from clos= ing when the tire hits the underside of the upper wing
skin, so the add= ition of the shims seems to have caused the problem.

I originally had 70 PSI in my Cheng Shen MLG tires and bled them down to 60 PSI but that didn't help.

Today I will attempt to reduce the thi= ckness of the shims, but I fear
that's not going to work because the ne= w Matco brake pads are thicker
than the old Rosenhan pads and need more= clearance to allow for wear.

So the only options I can think of at = this point would be to 1. carve
out a crescent of the upper wing skin c= ore where the tire it hitting, 2.
grind down the ridge on the tire wher= e the tread meets the sidewall, 3.
Reform the middle gear door, or 4. f= ly with the aft edge of the middle
gear door about 1/16" away from bein= g flush.

Has anyone run into this problem? Any suggestions?

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