X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 07:33:49 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-la0-f52.google.com ([209.85.215.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6918563 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 00:55:11 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.52; envelope-from=gil@gilcargill.com Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id s18so2016423lam.25 for ; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 21:54:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ql+6Xbfn45VG7Ez2YZ/smbRvhFnlrML7yQTI/XGMp0Y=; b=ihT6ISNLIjhfEGB1j55WM8IynsFVLkS6leLpZDl2q7GbhZy/F5rAvLfCRo9UWN6WEc ueeDjkjNLv09NDAcE2K01FT9LZilwaKVmpOlhx9HH06HGa7l0qZNB31xSlxzjGLKePxX 0TNzm4wr/YWnDObLR3ouCjhKTwSQ7kbFWiwKZDGbHYqnD5yJZS2JPxU6iK5/DFa0EiGI VmyQd7HO2gh9pSXNx1iJC2neFviqtoBV85V+XlvgZ5/TgV0N04NtmrbYgCGCZYuNoUA4 pPlxt+9xMPbhskLnqQcmczq0XTp6X8hggKWl3Rx/ZX3CiZ91BEuL+HyuOk6gAyw6BIZk kXaA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn4cH1E4mFwkqMHzqcIp0PKYoI6beO4RpwUFw5KXUpGjT/VF9G6O9veOYaIGhkPZaKiO+32 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.19.195 with SMTP id h3mr12282456lae.47.1401857674214; Tue, 03 Jun 2014 21:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.210.69 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jun 2014 21:54:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 21:54:34 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LNC2 W&B From: Gil Cargill X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013d187eb2927e04fafb6cec --089e013d187eb2927e04fafb6cec Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks for the input. I am the heavy passenger. So no problem. The battery has been moved. The cause is the fact that I installed a TSIO550 with a three bladed prop. It is about 72lbs. I did not move the engine back. I have a standard 550 engine mount. Gil On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 12:38 PM, John Cooper wrote: > Gil-- > > What Greyhawk said. The standard "fix" for a forward CG is to move the > battery aft, but before the community here can offer any suggestions, we'd > need to know more. > > I just completed the W&B on my L-235 and the CG will be at the forward > limit (or beyond) with a full header tank, empty wing tanks, no baggage, > and a lightweight pilot. (With me in the plane there's no problem.) The > thing is, *anything *I put in my plane will move the CG aft. If I ever > intend to carry a passenger and more fuel, it's prudent to start out with a > forward CG. (Thanks to all the folks who talked me out of moving the > battery aft! Anybody want to buy 25' of brand new 2/0 welding cable?) > > --John > > Gil, > > How much is it nose heavy. LNC2's flight regimes tend to favor fwd CG, > depending on configuration. Perhaps you could list your "options" and W&B > info...... i.e. how did it get the way it is? > > Otherwise, always take a heavy passenger along. > > Grayhawk > > > -- Good Luck and Good Selling!!! Gil Cargill Cargill Consulting Group, Inc. 310.447.4102 --089e013d187eb2927e04fafb6cec Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the input. I am the heavy passenger. =C2=A0So n= o problem. =C2=A0The battery has been moved. =C2=A0The cause is the fact th= at I installed a TSIO550 with a three bladed prop. =C2=A0It is about 72lbs.= =C2=A0I did not move the engine back. =C2=A0I have a standard 550 engine m= ount.

Gil


On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 12:38 PM, John Cooper <snope= rcod@comporium.net> wrote:
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Gil--

What Greyhawk said. The standard "fix" for a forward CG is to= move the battery aft, but before the community here can offer any suggestions, we'd need to know more.

I just completed the W&B on my L-235 and the CG will be at the forward limit (or beyond) with a full header tank, empty wing tanks, no baggage, and a lightweight pilot. (With me in the plane there's no problem.) The thing is, anything I put in my plane will move the CG aft. If I ever intend to carry a passenger and more fuel, it's prudent to start out with a forward CG. (Thanks to all the folks who talked me out of moving the battery aft! Anybody want to buy 25' of brand new 2/0 welding cable?)

--John

Gil,
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How much is it nose heavy.=C2=A0 LNC2's flight regi= mes tend to favor fwd CG, depending on configuration.=C2=A0 Perha= ps you could list your "options" and=C2=A0W&B info= ...... i.e. how did it get the way it is?
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Otherwise, always=C2=A0take a heavy passenger along.
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Grayhawk




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Good Luck and Good Selling!!!
Gil Cargill
Cargill Consul= ting Group, Inc.
310.447.4102
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