X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 07:45:30 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp132.ord.emailsrvr.com ([173.203.6.132] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6916414 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 02 Jun 2014 17:12:13 -0400 Received-SPF: softfail receiver=logan.com; client-ip=173.203.6.132; envelope-from=jeff@formaspace.com Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp13.relay.ord1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A268A1989CC for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2014 17:11:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: from smtp192.mex05.mlsrvr.com (unknown [184.106.31.85]) by smtp13.relay.ord1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTPS id 8CC9D1989C7 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2014 17:11:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ORD2MBX02F.mex05.mlsrvr.com ([fe80::92e2:baff:fe11:e744]) by ORD2HUB10.mex05.mlsrvr.com ([fe80::d6ae:52ff:fe7f:6620%15]) with mapi id 14.03.0169.001; Mon, 2 Jun 2014 16:11:38 -0500 From: Jeff Turk X-Original-To: "lml@lancaironline.net" Subject: LNC4 - Looking for a great IV-P less than $250k Thread-Topic: LNC4 - Looking for a great IV-P less than $250k Thread-Index: Ac9+pzsEOxJwJ2nMT62aNWFnBuNF3w== X-Original-Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 21:11:37 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <01E9FA3C1E82F04B849753FBF0D21B6053760F@ORD2MBX02F.mex05.mlsrvr.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AHq+ AjXh Coe7 EcL5 E356 FR7b GVOH GftC GiLR GuKq G2vK Ie0t JNhj Jamh K6H5 Lziw;1;bABtAGwAQABsAGEAbgBjAGEAaQByAG8AbgBsAGkAbgBlAC4AbgBlAHQA;Sosha1_v1;7;{E0885F99-DFB2-48C9-92F7-D89C6EA84D5C};agBlAGYAZgBAAGYAbwByAG0AYQBzAHAAYQBjAGUALgBjAG8AbQA=;Mon, 02 Jun 2014 21:11:33 GMT;TABOAEMANAAgAC0AIABMAG8AbwBrAGkAbgBnACAAZgBvAHIAIABhACAAZwByAGUAYQB0ACAASQBWAC0AUAAgAGwAZQBzAHMAIAB0AGgAYQBuACAAJAAyADUAMABrAA== x-cr-puzzleid: {E0885F99-DFB2-48C9-92F7-D89C6EA84D5C} x-originating-ip: [71.41.144.66] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Hello All, I have long dreamed of owning and flying a IV-P, and the moment has come wh= en it appears I have the means to acquire one. However, as I began to searc= h for the right plane, it quickly came to my attention that not all IV-Ps a= re created equal. In fact, the depth of my ignorance in regard to the aircr= aft has become stunningly apparent. The result is that I have become tied = up in a kind of analysis paralysis as I have discovered aircraft which had = major build problems, significant damage histories, incomplete logbooks, ba= nk repossessions under difficult circumstances, and so on. Another issue I have is how to appropriately value the aircraft if I ever d= o find one I feel safe flying. I can value a Bonanza pretty easily, but giv= en the tremendous differences in available IV-Ps, I am not even sure how to= begin. I have just reached the point I can afford a IV-P at the lower to = middle end of the value range, and the last thing I want to do is make a bo= neheaded financial move. Some questions I might ask more educated owners and builders: - Would you acquire a Lancair with a challenging or unprofessional build hi= story at any price (assuming the problems were corrected)? - Would you acquire a Lancair with a damage history (say a gear up landing = or significant damage from being hit on the ramp by another aircraft) at an= y price? - Would you acquire a plane with very little TT on it? There are several a= ircraft for sale with less than 100 TT, or which have turned into hangar qu= eens in the last few years. - If so, what considerations would you have, and what pricing adjustments w= ould you make? - Any information you have on prices that IV-Ps have recently sold for, wit= h times and equipment descriptions would be extremely helpful. I suspect t= here is a large divergence between asking prices and realities. Thanks, Jeff