X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2014 09:08:09 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.109.194] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6914814 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 15:51:22 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.109.194; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaout-mcd02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mcd02.mx.aol.com [172.26.223.206]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1D0307026771F for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2014 15:50:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.134] (24-107-68-166.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com [24.107.68.166]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mcd02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id BF7CB38000091 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2014 15:50:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Edwards Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-D1BA72E2-BFBC-407D-9329-07AA019EB543 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Legacy Oil Pan Quick Drain X-Original-Message-Id: X-Original-Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 14:50:47 -0500 References: In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B511) x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1adfce538b84176caf X-AOL-IP: 24.107.68.166 --Apple-Mail-D1BA72E2-BFBC-407D-9329-07AA019EB543 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Charlie, I will look at some photos tomorrow. Jeff Sent from my iPad > On Jun 1, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Charles Brown wrote: >=20 > Dennis, I've had excellent results with that quick-drain system on my Lega= cy / 550 also, over 300 hrs and a half-dozen oil changes. >=20 > I also had the oil pan clearance problem with the nosegear over-center lin= ks, in fact my links actually retracted into contact (just barely) with the o= il pan. Being in a hurry to get flying, and thinking that the oil pan is fa= irly thin and flexible, I did a redneck cure: taped two stirring sticks, la= yerwise, on the bottom of the pan at the point of interference, and manually= retracted the nose gear (i.e., by lifting it with my hands) a few times, th= us using the O/C links themselves to bend the oil pan to provide about 1/10 i= nch clearance in ground-retract conditions. I painted the pan and looked fo= r witness marks, but there haven't been any in 350 hours. =20 >=20 > Perhaps someone who's been inside a 550 could comment on whether there's a= nything immed inside the pan, or any other risk of bending it inward/upward 1= /10 inch near the center... I assume it's an ordinary reservoir with an inc= h or so at least of clearance above it, give or take non-structural items li= ke a baffle. >=20 > Charley Brown > Legacy 299 > 350 hours. >=20 > From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Den= nis Johnson > Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:39 AM > To: Lancair Mailing List > Subject: [LML] Legacy Oil Pan Quick Drain >=20 > .... >=20 > So a few months ago I installed a different quick drain valve, called the "= Lancair IV Oil Drain Valve," Aircraft Spruce part #08-01298. It looks like t= his=20 >=20 >=20 > ... >=20 > I installed the drain valve into the oil pan, lifted the nose gear off the= ground, and manually swung the nose gear. The clearance was tight, conside= ring how much the engine rocks and rolls, but it looked like there would be e= nough. For the first few flights after installing it, I inspected the drain= closely, looking for rub marks. I didn't find any. There is no evidence t= hat the nose gear strut is contacting the drain valve.=20 >=20 >=20 > ... >=20 > Dennis >=20 > Legacy 720 hours=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-D1BA72E2-BFBC-407D-9329-07AA019EB543 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Charlie,

I wi= ll look at some photos tomorrow.

Jeff

Sent f= rom my iPad

On Jun 1, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Charles Brown <browncc1@verizon.net> wrote:
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Dennis, I've had excellent results w= ith that quick-drain system on my Legacy / 550 also, over 300 hrs and a half= -dozen oil changes.

I also had the oil pan clearance prob= lem with the nosegear over-center links, in fact my links actually retracted= into contact (just barely) with the oil pan.  Being in a hurry to get f= lying, and thinking that the oil pan is fairly thin and flexible, I did a re= dneck cure:  taped two stirring sticks, layerwise, on the bottom of the= pan at the point of interference, and manually retracted the nose gear = ;(i.e., by lifting it with my hands) a few times, thus using the O/C li= nks themselves to bend the oil pan to provide about 1/10 inch clearance in g= round-retract conditions.  I painted the pan and looked for witness mar= ks, but there haven't been any in 350 hours.  

Perhaps someone who's been inside a 550 could comment on whether there's an= ything immed inside the pan, or any other risk of bending it inward/upward 1= /10 inch near the center...  I assume it's an ordinary reservoir with a= n inch or so at least of clearance above it, give or take non-structural ite= ms like a baffle.

Charley Brown
Legacy 29= 9
350 hours.

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