X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2014 09:49:54 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm13-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([216.39.63.41] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6914257 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 01 Jun 2014 05:08:03 -0400 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.39.63.41; envelope-from=browncc1@verizon.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=FPq9J/ROe4M7qQv8hkGw3YBWz6+SaycmIGqxZmvD5sc8p21eCdCzCg3AQBIQmp9vlqxkKmE/QZhRrGMbXjFul2ySUHPQKBAnFI3sPRWPdjUa6g/Th/WvoWhwda/TFCKFipbPKEAlqyB6epI0PveYkORsipNZ+3uMYaxjUCcy2IyzmLAV/7/FUVuK1sNc6+pvM/4wdgPL4QjbiCfKeqdOSIJqYKdFi6FtPGRzRnaWuUh3dVZkt7QZ8ofTrQP89Zda5Ieu5WU+Hzv+fjooFHSKBNU78K6UjupSFtY6Psk4i+xanUrzI93nOZ3xXSJ5MrVnglIxeG6/vK4A4kP/AJRSAg==; Received: from [216.39.60.174] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2014 09:07:28 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.96] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2014 09:07:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2014 09:07:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 675677.54855.bm@smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 0niwhPUVM1m7N_.S3TuX4w.V3CSrBzKjVDVcTk1UNdSWq9X YRG8tkDOzgg9v3trTBUDSMKcY7tQDOV2L6aulsHiPLnPhIlGTGiKkMBkzYJX CXp7jJa8WPf2bK__gBD9jp0N0kkqx4ty5alyvXVG7o0TrIyW3gyegRwJlnS8 URrOAUFgKJXT6AfMOPTbMHQkflZaYWTX5oHMWn3iN75DaCQ6EGP95ijNa.yq cP0hANLCck1toTUM8IFUDOjyhxEV3HqnnsinXycCAkxhaowQLnlJpcnWe0EL v9qRrrGTrQWhtjpDgEkWdhemmXZmZIJGp2xRVo9w3pRlwpmHXSuVbC8eE_Z5 WUEtcYCzdfFJvZi_5mD10SnYqm0ee9bNR3.LqTTDrONhptXWxPbAyBtQ6JE. DZ7E_5_Ns1p6W0Yg.eaesUB2nKFZ.5eypzfK5cZnObd7e8C16H8z4s1yIqwh vYtMJijRJgJWtKKqYgC.Ha6D9t0t2aEOc8B70zw2QXXqbJ6CLi7s48Iza6bE DAKWYOAzgp6EJo2VE_wf2qVBnJwnkTe1I8WdHOwriiYEByg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: F49l9g6swBC0R9n8vJIbm7Tf3P8Xlmia8rHIwTlO__Ml X-Rocket-Received: from chass-imac-2.home (browncc1@96.226.133.157 with plain [98.138.84.31]) by smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 01 Jun 2014 09:07:27 +0000 UTC From: Charles Brown Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-17-252168044 Subject: Re: Legacy Oil Pan Quick Drain X-Original-Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2014 04:07:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List References: X-Original-Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) --Apple-Mail-17-252168044 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dennis, I've had excellent results with that quick-drain system on my = Legacy / 550 also, over 300 hrs and a half-dozen oil changes. I also had the oil pan clearance problem with the nosegear over-center = links, in fact my links actually retracted into contact (just barely) = with the oil pan. Being in a hurry to get flying, and thinking that the = oil pan is fairly thin and flexible, I did a redneck cure: taped two = stirring sticks, layerwise, on the bottom of the pan at the point of = interference, and manually retracted the nose gear (i.e., by lifting it = with my hands) a few times, thus using the O/C links themselves to bend = the oil pan to provide about 1/10 inch clearance in ground-retract = conditions. I painted the pan and looked for witness marks, but there = haven't been any in 350 hours. =20 Perhaps someone who's been inside a 550 could comment on whether there's = anything immed inside the pan, or any other risk of bending it = inward/upward 1/10 inch near the center... I assume it's an ordinary = reservoir with an inch or so at least of clearance above it, give or = take non-structural items like a baffle. Charley Brown Legacy 299 350 hours. From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Dennis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:39 AM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Legacy Oil Pan Quick Drain .... So a few months ago I installed a different quick drain valve, called = the "Lancair IV Oil Drain Valve," Aircraft Spruce part #08-01298. It = looks like this=20 ... I installed the drain valve into the oil pan, lifted the nose gear off = the ground, and manually swung the nose gear. The clearance was tight, = considering how much the engine rocks and rolls, but it looked like = there would be enough. For the first few flights after installing it, I = inspected the drain closely, looking for rub marks. I didn't find any. = There is no evidence that the nose gear strut is contacting the drain = valve.=20 ... Dennis Legacy 720 hours=20 --Apple-Mail-17-252168044 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] = On Behalf Of Dennis Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, = 2014 6:39 AM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] = Legacy Oil Pan Quick Drain

 ....

So a few months ago I installed a different = quick drain valve, called the "Lancair IV Oil Drain Valve," Aircraft = Spruce part #08-01298.  It looks like this 

...

I installed the drain = valve into the oil pan, lifted the nose gear off the ground, and = manually swung the nose gear.  The clearance was tight, considering = how much the engine rocks and rolls, but it looked like there would be = enough.  For the first few flights after installing it, I = inspected the drain closely, looking for rub marks.  I didn't find = any.  There is no evidence that the nose gear strut is contacting = the drain valve. 

...

Dennis

Legacy 720 = hours 



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