X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.109.202] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6910706 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 29 May 2014 13:18:36 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.109.202; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-mcd01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcd01.mx.aol.com [172.26.223.207]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A55C5700000B8 for ; Thu, 29 May 2014 13:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mla005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.186.83]) by mtaomg-mcd01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7899D3800008A for ; Thu, 29 May 2014 13:18:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com Full-name: Sky2high Message-ID: <27527.59964f26.40b8c5c8@aol.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 13:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Hydraulic Cylinder Rigging To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_27527.59964f26.40b8c5c8_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 168 X-Originating-IP: [24.14.166.87] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1401383881; bh=5PQhtIbHSPiUJrj/ktUZ/k9TuR2oDhNH4vl9iiA+vmQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bX3LOHXZGTXcKZ1OpFGL5wavUtr0ocrs5sL9IeMbxm1uyUHqjg9vYZSqC0Hu/Xsa5 Pz6DYkFS4juD0gGig4FIL2l1DQb6afvjTkFdiGyvqxCsmuAP4bgiTe8yD/wyf5C/Y+ tFjZJKZYknktuFUKh9ibhPMZAOnVNvRGwnO4X57A= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1adfcf53876bc94074 --part1_27527.59964f26.40b8c5c8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John, Whatever. It's experimental anyway. Scott In a message dated 5/29/2014 12:13:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, snopercod@comporium.net writes: Scott-- I can tell you right now that there's no way in hell that I'm going to relocate the mounting block for the aft end of the MLG cylinders. I've already incorporated the SB on beefing up the OC link attach point so I'm just going to take my chances with a little pressure on the OC link since the factory says that's OK (I posed the manual section earlier). I agree with you that it would be "better" to have a down stop, but the 235 manual says "not required". If you have a 320 manual section or a SB that contradicts that, I'd sure like to see it. I've read both manuals and couldn't find any words requiring a down stop. So if I can't get a down stop adjusted, I'm just not going to worry about it. I've got the Ong's Debongers, not the donuts. Also, I've already cut off ~1/4" of the threaded end of the cylinders because I couldn't get them short enough - the rod end was bottoming out internally. Best-- --John John, If the actuator is too long fro the down stop either relocate the aft end mounting or cut off some of the threaded end (within reason). The uo stop can be positioned with some more nuts on the shaft or cut it down a bit if too long. Again, if 500 to 800 psi is pressure applied to the over center link (main gear), that pressure is translated as a pre-load to the point where the link is mounted on the spar. Additional load from a bad landing can cause delamination of that mounting block (especially true if you are using the hard donuts for suspension, high tire pressure, etc.). Good luck. Scott PS There is a service bulletin that describes a reinforcement phenolic plate added between the top of the mounting block and the upper spar cap. See if you can get it from Lancair. --part1_27527.59964f26.40b8c5c8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

John,

Whatever. It's experimental anyway.

Scott

In a message dated 5/29/2014 12:13:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 snopercod@comporium.net writes:

= Scott--

I can tell you right now that there's no way = in hell=20 that I'm going to relocate the mounting block for the aft end of the MLG= =20 cylinders. I've already incorporated the SB on beefing up the OC li= nk=20 attach point so I'm just going to take my chances with a little pressure = on=20 the OC link since the factory says that's OK (I posed the manual section= =20 earlier). I agree with you that it would be "better" to have a down stop,= but=20 the 235 manual says "not required". If you have a 320 manual sectio= n or=20 a SB that contradicts that, I'd sure like to see it. I've read both manua= ls=20 and couldn't find any words requiring a down stop. So if I can't get a do= wn=20 stop adjusted, I'm just not going to worry about it.

I've got the = Ong's=20 Debongers, not the donuts. Also, I've already cut off ~1/4" of the thread= ed=20 end of the cylinders because I couldn't get them short enough - the rod e= nd=20 was bottoming out internally.

Best--

--John

John,

If the actuator is too long fro the down stop either relocate= the=20 aft end mounting or cut off some of the threaded end (within reason).&n= bsp;=20 The uo stop can be positioned with some more nuts on the shaft or cut i= t=20 down a bit if too long.

Again, if 500 to 800 psi is pressure applied to the over= =20 center link (main gear), that pressure is translated as a pre-load to t= he=20 point where the link is mounted on the spar. Additional load from= a=20 bad landing can cause delamination of that mounting block (especially t= rue=20 if you are using the hard donuts for suspension, high tire pressure,=20 etc.).

Good luck.

Scott

PS There is a service bulletin that describes a reinforcement= =20 phenolic plate added between the top of the mounting block and the uppe= r=20 spar cap. See if you can get it from=20 Lancair.

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