X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 13:13:09 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from rc2-smtp.comporium.net ([208.104.2.6] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTP id 6909390 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 28 May 2014 15:25:33 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=208.104.2.6; envelope-from=snopercod@comporium.net Received: from bar01.comporium.net ([208.104.244.60]) by rc2-smtp.comporium.net ({44220f39-1a1f-4b8b-8e3d-7d4391b51326}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20140528192500272 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 19:25:00 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1401305098-07cf4e306f194e90001-yPXFKn Received: from rg20.comporium.net (rg20.comporium.net [208.104.2.10]) by bar01.comporium.net with ESMTP id legVArWZA9Wxo7TB for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 15:24:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: snopercod@comporium.net X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 208.104.2.10 Received: from 33.225.235.68.dsl.brvdnc.dynamic.citcom.Net (EHLO _127.0.0.1_) ([68.235.225.33]) by rg20.comporium.net (MOS 4.3.4-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id BGD28846 (AUTH snopercod); Wed, 28 May 2014 15:24:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-Message-ID: <53863807.7030401@comporium.net> X-Original-Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 15:24:55 -0400 From: John Cooper User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Re: Hydraulic Cylinder Rigging Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050100010306070706090404" X-ASG-Orig-Subj: [LML] Re: Hydraulic Cylinder Rigging X-Barracuda-Connect: rg20.comporium.net[208.104.2.10] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1401305098 X-Barracuda-URL: http://208.104.2.35:8000/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at comporium.net X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.6190 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.00 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-MAG-OUTBOUND: comporium.redcondor.net@208.104.244.48/28 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050100010306070706090404 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott-- I can tell you right now that there's no way in hell that I'm going to relocate the mounting block for the aft end of the MLG cylinders. I've already incorporated the SB on beefing up the OC link attach point so I'm just going to take my chances with a little pressure on the OC link since the factory says that's OK (I posed the manual section earlier). I agree with you that it would be "better" to have a down stop, but the 235 manual says "not required". If you have a 320 manual section or a SB that contradicts that, I'd sure like to see it. I've read both manuals and couldn't find any words requiring a down stop. So if I can't get a down stop adjusted, I'm just not going to worry about it. I've got the Ong's Debongers, not the donuts. Also, I've already cut off ~1/4" of the threaded end of the cylinders because I couldn't get them short enough - the rod end was bottoming out internally. Best-- --John > John, > If the actuator is too long fro the down stop either relocate the aft > end mounting or cut off some of the threaded end (within reason). The > uo stop can be positioned with some more nuts on the shaft or cut it > down a bit if too long. > Again, if 500 to 800 psi is pressure applied to the over center link > (main gear), that pressure is translated as a pre-load to the point > where the link is mounted on the spar. Additional load from a bad > landing can cause delamination of that mounting block (especially true > if you are using the hard donuts for suspension, high tire pressure, > etc.). > Good luck. > Scott > PS There is a service bulletin that describes a reinforcement phenolic > plate added between the top of the mounting block and the upper spar > cap. See if you can get it from Lancair. --------------050100010306070706090404 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott--

I can tell you right now that there's no way in hell that I'm going to relocate the mounting block for the aft end of the MLG cylinders.  I've already incorporated the SB on beefing up the OC link attach point so I'm just going to take my chances with a little pressure on the OC link since the factory says that's OK (I posed the manual section earlier). I agree with you that it would be "better" to have a down stop, but the 235 manual says "not required".  If you have a 320 manual section or a SB that contradicts that, I'd sure like to see it. I've read both manuals and couldn't find any words requiring a down stop. So if I can't get a down stop adjusted, I'm just not going to worry about it.

I've got the Ong's Debongers, not the donuts. Also, I've already cut off ~1/4" of the threaded end of the cylinders because I couldn't get them short enough - the rod end was bottoming out internally.

Best--

  --John

John,
 
If the actuator is too long fro the down stop either relocate the aft end mounting or cut off some of the threaded end (within reason).  The uo stop can be positioned with some more nuts on the shaft or cut it down a bit if too long.
 
Again, if 500 to 800 psi is pressure applied to the over center link (main gear), that pressure is translated as a pre-load to the point where the link is mounted on the spar.  Additional load from a bad landing can cause delamination of that mounting block (especially true if you are using the hard donuts for suspension, high tire pressure, etc.).
 
Good luck.
 
Scott
 
PS There is a service bulletin that describes a reinforcement phenolic plate added between the top of the mounting block and the upper spar cap.  See if you can get it from Lancair.

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