X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 07:28:21 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.90.75] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTPS id 6901715 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 22 May 2014 17:58:07 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.90.75; envelope-from=dudewanarace@yahoo.com Received: from [98.138.100.118] by nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 May 2014 21:57:32 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.232] by tm109.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 May 2014 21:57:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1047.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 May 2014 21:57:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 589195.4623.bm@omp1047.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 22107 invoked by uid 60001); 22 May 2014 21:57:32 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: jRabKAQVM1nsEnMQ_cGyBQDLfu_SEuiWOBJuK9_E21vdrzA SYni3YBYdna86GyYr0xZALpj1OKpcE8SI5drfIaeXxgFDPAQELcF8KuqGMoI RZwr9V3oKfj17i8J4a.g96Rd7UqFXJBGpkucmwxhK_F8pjzxjfvQJ.wYEYoe vQFvKpo84vkZjpCV3jr9WxUV20LNYRmS.dwzlj3D1CKs77T5AUb0yJzzAkVf hBjoykypY4JGT.XEka9_qeE.QR_uchgZ7zMl86n3dLidK7g9UU0WAMyhcwIE K6MwbJMUddPW8QATNebnQVy.lBGm8gk1uPECURj09kkd_udcqjJINLsM53er m6vmIUxK9OEGcNWyr.xTl9dlxD4bXOHgqaWN3NlEfvbKL1nkIlSFSpyqM.cq EWGUV3tNuaYwjJJHtUaHkdq1B_RV3P3JDK6dYA7r_jSxL6yiztEH72blzd.b 2E9sa2iGP3HwhHZIfNeP_ToUG3LJURMJPq_ENQRbgz6fTVxXo5PNBQCf.fC5 fIwAaWkOCHNukbpfhfn8f0.6jdH6KmIP8PUDJFFlis6xwUn18X6yIQjKedgx mzQHb6HQ0ZcsoIqruhXi1m2OuAXkuZdAmzkqISb_1YBWE8IK3acbyt1Rl.vw SRsD2jedrfvs1B3b5OFUeSLcr Received: from [24.2.15.88] by web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 22 May 2014 14:57:32 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,Q2hyaXMsCkNvcnJlY3QuIMKgV2hlbiBTY290dHkgb3duZWQgaXQsIGhlIG1lbnRpb25lZCB0aGUgc3RvcnkuIMKgSSBndWVzcyBoZSBsaXRlcmFsbHkgaGFkIHRvIGp1bXAgb3V0IGFuZCBGbGludHN0b25lIGl0IHRvIGEgc3RvcC4KCk5vdCBsb25nIGFmdGVyIEkgYm91Z2h0IHRoZSBhaXJwbGFuZSwgZHVyaW5nIG9uZSBvZiBteSBkdWFsIHRyYWluaW5nIGZsaWdodHMsIEkgaGFkIGEgYnJha2UgbGluaW5nIGNvbWUgb2ZmLiDCoE15IG9ubHkgZ3Vlc3MgaXMgdGhhdCBpdCB3YXMgc3F1ZWV6ZWQgdG9vIHRpZ2gBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.188.663 X-Original-Message-ID: <1400795852.9891.YahooMailNeo@web124701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 14:57:32 -0700 (PDT) From: dudewanarace@yahoo.com Reply-To: dudewanarace@yahoo.com Subject: RE: Observations on Limited Life Items X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1294290100-1126755291-1400795852=:9891" --1294290100-1126755291-1400795852=:9891 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris,=0ACorrect. =A0When Scotty owned it, he mentioned the story. =A0I gue= ss he literally had to jump out and Flintstone it to a stop.=0A=0ANot long = after I bought the airplane, during one of my dual training flights, I had = a brake lining come off. =A0My only guess is that it was squeezed too tight= when rivited to the base. =A0So the lining drops out and I loose right bra= ke, pumped like my life depended on it and that just pushed the piston out = of the caliper because there was no pad to fill the void. =A0Ended up doing= an ever so gentle left turn off the runway right between 2 taxi lights, in= to the grass.=0A=0AThe Matco brakes are small, and cheap to repair, but man= .. It is a fair amount of work to fix a pinched tube that is only inevitabl= e. (I have the standard gear) Someday I'll 'brake' down (a little pun there= ) and buy the Beringer kit and be done with it.=0A=0ATom McNerney=0Ahttp://= www.N54SG.com=A0=0A=A0=0A~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~=0A=0AWasn't it Unleashed=A0(b= efore you, Tom)=A0that almost ran into the fuel island several years ago wh= en a brake=A0line failed?=A0=0A=0AI just weighed an old brake disc.=0ABased= on that and a Cp of 500 J/(kg-K) and mid-weight, 80 deg day=0AMax braking = from speed x will raise the disc temperature to y degrees=0A25 kts=A0 220 d= egF=0A35 kts=A0 350 degF=0A45 kts=A0=A0530 degF=0A55 kts=A0 750 degF=0A=0AK= eep those brake lines protected.=0A=0AChris Zavatson=0AN91CZ=0A360std=0Ahtt= p://www.N91CZ.net=0A --1294290100-1126755291-1400795852=:9891 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Chris,
Correct.  When Scotty own= ed it, he mentioned the story.  I guess he literally had to jump out a= nd Flintstone it to a stop.

Not long after I bought the airplane, during one of m= y dual training flights, I had a brake lining come off.  My only guess= is that it was squeezed too tight when rivited to the base.  So the l= ining drops out and I loose right brake, pumped like my life depended on it= and that just pushed the piston out of the caliper because there was no pa= d to fill the void.  Ended up doing an ever so gentle left turn off th= e runway right between 2 taxi lights, into the grass.

The Matco brakes are small,= and cheap to repair, but man.. It is a fair amount of work to fix a pinched tube that i= s only inevitable. (I have the standard gear) Someday I'll 'brake' down (a = little pun there) and buy the Beringer kit and be done with it.

Tom McNerney
 
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Wasn't it Unleashed (before you, Tom) that almost ran int= o the fuel island several years ago when a brake line failed? 

I just weighed an old brake disc.
Based on that and a Cp of 500 J/(kg-K) and mid-weight, 80 deg day
Max braking from speed x will raise the disc t= emperature to y degrees
25 kts  220 degF
35 kts  350 degF
45 kts  5= 30 degF
55 kts  750 degF

Keep those brake lines protected.

Chris Zavatson
N91CZ
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