X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 07:24:17 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm22-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.212.127] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTPS id 6745102 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:13:35 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.212.127; envelope-from=n20087@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm22.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2014 02:12:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.162] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2014 02:12:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2014 02:12:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 452112.13665.bm@smtp219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: r65xEiIVM1mzJkCO42FnTfQw.4vFUBHl9fi8gdxliRqL_lM rEDbxdAjY1em0wGxGY4062OIIrIUm0oztfavtZKNm9u.sSz_T1PuBaj5jxh1 Wzl6dxYXuagPKUV3NimJ8I96JAAH7wfiz6MXOb1oecOF20upgdQ1FeTnDpNp l.ir0FfwT6lk89fkN0RUdNeppBDoIpjcNX8sgbpUHn37tMKy1vTAyLbppdrz E.UK1tY59IPfPpeUmcEaFuUPDYz.cM2wqHTnfJ_EYVnzfh9wOdHV1QO4UfRL u4Y3HtVQO8D5N_X61QeP5ydnBoCOdjNUkoiPIb3uT2DJmeOxgU3U2v4ZuGPE Sl5iDbqGxQogs6kjZpm0jkbudK831dTk9J4X3BIJtGJRdeBRl4DMEGNDAMl3 5WjfAbejmQMJmphzTkIjPjal5r0bCFRnBc.ifYMWguPG_0NHldrW9u6oiqD2 r3UnxW_7.yCq0mQ_k2l_mm3sA6Hc.4iyjYl_4rsBAlxIF9dKYLBIuUG6J.9d HRXCMfIGPClH6XNk6oI.Wodr7HgpdAgv0ZW.OmomKZNr90AmG X-Yahoo-SMTP: NQQt3c2swBAKSrExoA1eZuT7_w-- X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.1.103] (n20087@24.254.187.109 with xymcookie [216.39.61.254]) by smtp219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2014 18:12:59 -0800 PST Subject: G3x installation experience From: N20087 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B176) X-Original-Message-Id: X-Original-Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 21:13:18 -0500 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Folks I thought I might share my experience with my avionics upgrade in my 360. I= decided to remove my Stec 55, sandel HSI and king remote gyro sell it all a= nd install the g3x system. I got 5k and change for the TSOed stuff and then= tossed in 2k for the g3x with external autopilot control and 2 servos for p= itch and roll. I chose the g3x for various reasons including the following=20 I have a good deal of time behind the G1000 a lot and very used to the user i= nterface I think the gfc 700 is the best ga autopilot out there and the g3x shares a l= ot of its technology I already had 2 GNS 430s in my panel along with a Garmin transponder. I expe= cted the interfacing to work reliably on the same brand equipment=20 Garmin documentation is fantastic, complete and accurate=20 I have found Garmin support to be top notch as I am sure the other brands ar= e but I did not want finger pointing between vendors when dealing with integ= ration of components; I wanted just one neck to ring The entire removal and install took 3 weeks from engine shutdown to first fl= ight. Since I work full time this was a weekends and evening activity. A w= ord to the wise, don't do this kind of thing in a cold hanger in the depths o= f winter. Ask me how I know! Pointers for others thinking of using this product There is some wiggle room on system pricing with the dealers Make sure you check lead times on all parts and get a delivery commitment as= part of the deal Make sure you inventory EVERYTHING on receipt. You may have to ask your dea= ler to make good on some missing items The quality of the Garmin connectors/backshells is exceptional but they are e= xpensive. Don't accept substitutions. Garmin backshells are heavy aluminum= with a unique grounding bar that makes terminations easier and very effecti= ve=20 Use a spreadsheet to map out your cable schedule with pin numbers and wire c= olour for each connector Buy a quality wire stripper, the kind that grabs the cable and then rips tef= zel down to the shield and then individual cores=20 I standardized on 22awg all round even though 24awg can be used in many inte= rconnects=20 22awg strips more reliably and does better with crimps The connector kits come with quality machined d-sub pins/sockets, you will n= eed to buy more because you will screw up=20 Invest in a quality pin compression tool You will use a lot of zip ties for mocking things up - buy lots Test your cables as you make them and make sure none of the cores are shorte= d to the shield=20 Map out your panel using a cad tool (autocad has a free 1 month eval) and th= e dxf files for cutouts that Garmin provide You can take your aircraft AL sheet and final panel layout dxf file to your l= ocal laser/water jet cutter to make the replacement sections. Note 2024 alum= inum needs a larger bending radius than shops are used to doing. =20 You must purchase a gps antenna that connects to the pfd to use the syntheti= c vision feature Once you wire up the PFD, ADAHRS and OAT sensor exactly per the manual you c= an test the bare bones system. =20 You must follow the magnetometer calibration procedure to the letter. The system uses CAN bus for communications. This technology requires termin= ations on each end. I terminated at the PFD and at the pitch servo The servo mounting kits are pretty decent and complete but in the end I repu= rposed what I already had which needed little modification The magnetometer interference test is very useful in determining the install= ation position. The sensor is mounted to one side of the hat rack below the f= loor. My tests passed for all electrical devices except the pitch servo clut= ch engagement. It was over by a max of 20%. In speaking to Garmin I might g= et away with it. Having flown a few times now and using the ap there have b= een no ill effects i.e. Bad headings or red Xs.=20 I did not jack the aircraft as suggested by Garmin to verify interference ef= fects of the hydraulic pump since my pump is mounted on the inside of the fi= rewall. =20 The capstan servo kit does not include mounting brackets You will need to make your own pitch servo bridle if you are using a capstan= scheme I did not connect the auto trim system as I figured I would do this later Even in a 360, there is a need to adjust pitch trim when changing speeds sig= nificantly with the ap engaged if you use Garmin transponders make sure the firmware is up to date to ensur= e the RS232 connection to the ADAHRS works correctly Make sure the autopilot servos are set to operate in the right direction on t= he ground otherwise things could get interesting really fast in the air. In= my case I had to reset the direction from the normal out of the box directi= on, all a function of your mechanical mounting arrangement So how does it fly? In a word, excellent! The PFD screen really is big enough for a 360. The user interface is more i= ntuitive than the G1000.=20 Very few integration headaches, just follow the Garmin directions The highway in the sky feature along with the flight director and flight pat= h marker is really neat. But beware it can really dumb down your instrument= scan The screen is plenty bright in sun Tuning the auto pilot took about 10 minutes of tweaking the gains. The defa= ult torque values are pretty close already=20 Flying a coupled LPV approach is just amazing, it behaved flawlessly without= much fuss even on a slightly bumpy day with a 12 kt x wind component. The s= ystem flew an order of magnitude more smoothly and accurately than the origi= nal Stec 55. The integration ith the GNS430W is very well done. I really di= d not have to change how I did things (buttonology) to fly an approach relat= ive to the sandel but the presentation on the HSI is far better Indicated air speed climb is quite usefull but should only be used in relati= vely smooth conditions as you will find the AP sawing on the controls. It d= oes a good job maintaining air speed, better than I ever could but I think i= t is too hard on the controls. Sometimes you just have to hand fly! Vertical speed climb is better damped but you would need to be on top of cha= nging the desired rate as performance bumps up against the edge of the envel= ope The up/down thumb wheel on the AP is really cool and handy The default setting for sink rate Alarm is not consistent with Lancairs.=20 Things yet to do Install the Garmin AOA pitot Install ADSB receiver for WX Fix bitching Betty fly more!=20 Tom Lnc2 312 hrs