X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 14:02:52 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm22-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.212.127] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTPS id 6732965 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 13:26:05 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.212.127; envelope-from=chris_zavatson@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm22.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2014 18:25:30 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.248] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2014 18:25:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1057.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2014 18:25:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 114132.83123.bm@omp1057.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 47283 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Feb 2014 18:25:30 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RS6eZ5Jx6tfY6Pt8NaCgAcvcqUrRDivPwIB+UzL7jXFrolTs1rx1++ZRRd1OEnlxivTop1CEOWittLU634TP3tGL/rTGe/Ze90EfRBI1bqugxSQk9Im3ox3U8yWuKJMfMWBDOuH5BIAwZ0jyxpCKimHtG/fVWgmmhFgEuXKYvNI=; X-YMail-OSG: Ui7j5hAVM1kmcGdwcb0CuJx70onlhZfF9Kbp6ZhkRt11hyJ NHwq_pvKZ71z4BDswaq4RuWhWStZQY5tJyMrvS0Mu.WkF9Uwbyj.Hi8yOEOI qU6k_Np7KoH5883W40W_oKBpIN8svDTV0elNM4ovauYHoWLD3MLwF_SotFsD VbQp4ZmWVV4Qy.Gewmt_UE0WefEobs23PfYu3zuDz6QLYyOKieJYC4h7EAhW 9CVUB.7nlR8ePLt6aEdQ.lg0dkK4iCyyHdwK8askpozGdomPUss_0kvsi0Oa VOAj7IEUmYXM1n4ecncsq2yBvRs8AaXMvjSMbjssYWotBI2s0JaG_dx6QxLp LZGQRWFRMkpryflPPUTLsqR5asK.ZIU0Yw9O0VCq7HnUfQxxZu9h4OWSRhAQ acp0aUF8tLPnRYJM1xxNxEibgrb_Lv2UWWAFwmSYwit.8FDU9NJE4qTrPfj6 GO_7b2hr.xcXgROrvmsckQGMZBNcUqTuqsH72qjb0JZTpDsmQZTGRybK3.YQ 4MDAa_sBFo5irZ264aLMFsW3K_Zp9k0Zn96G8FVdE4PKvSUvS903ID5eoaqm _hu_9_gztaqJuNhJL_tGz2WNEnGw0OwvVMU4Oc1LyyaZpumrd551VvQN1DUj .W0djjWRnueHdLrz7WGTpMWEPRbUSYLgAJLWkVeY3v0zzof2SXXdQTq_QKHV sPHbwPi8bGzd51pjYZJWvtBvjKUK7Ex.llFGYK3YCUymSFD_sBQ-- Received: from [172.14.16.72] by web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 14 Feb 2014 10:25:29 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,U29tZSBtYXJnaW4gKGJldHdlZW4gSUFTIGFuZCBML0QgbWF4IElBUykgaXMgZGVmaW5pdGVseSBoZWxwZnVsLsKgwqBGbHlpbmcgdGhyb3VnaCBzb21lIG1vdW50YWluIHdhdmUgYXQgMTYuNWssIHRoZSBhdXRvcGlsb3QgaGVsZCBhbHRpdHVkZSBjb25zdGFudCwgYnV0IHRoZSBhaXJzcGVlZCB3b3VsZCBzbG93bHkgY3ljbGUgYmV0d2VlbiAxMjAgYW5kIDE2MCBLSUFTLsKgwqDCoAoKQ2hyaXMgWmF2YXRzb24KTjkxQ1oKMzYwc3RkCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cubjkxY3oubmV0LwoKCgpPbiBGcmlkYXksIEZlYnJ1YXIBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.177.636 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1392402329.79823.YahooMailNeo@web161204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 10:25:29 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Zavatson Reply-To: Chris Zavatson Subject: Re: [LML] Re: 360 Service ceiling X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1173436188-1449702076-1392402329=:79823" --1173436188-1449702076-1392402329=:79823 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some margin (between IAS and L/D max IAS) is definitely helpful.=A0=A0Flyin= g through some mountain wave at 16.5k, the autopilot held altitude constant= , but the airspeed would slowly cycle between 120 and 160 KIAS.=A0=A0=A0=0A= =0AChris Zavatson=0AN91CZ=0A360std=0Ahttp://www.n91cz.net/=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Fr= iday, February 14, 2014 4:53 AM, Bill Harrelson wrote:= =0A =0AAngier,=0A=0AI've had our 320 to FL210 on a few occasions.=A0 It ge= ts up there only if =0Ayou're quite light (solo, minimum baggage, low fuel)= . It's only a practical =0Aaltitude if you're catching a big tailwind.=A0 I= AS is only around 115-120 so =0Aany turbulence would necessitate an immedia= te descent.=A0 With a 360 you could =0Aget up there a bit easier and have a= little more airspeed margin.=A0 You =0Ashould have either electronic ignit= ion or pressurized mags in addition to =0Athe stuff that Greyhawk mentioned= .=A0 I guess it all depends on your =0Adefinition of "practical" but in gen= eral, I'd say that FL180 would be about =0Athe highest practical altitude f= or a 320/360 on most occasions.=0A=0ABill Harrelson=0AN6ZQ IV 500 hrs=0A=0A= =0A=0A-----Original Message----- =0A=0AWhat is the practical service ceilin= g with a 180hp IO360?=0AYears ago I was told you are there when the rate of= climb drops to 100ft/min =0Aof less.=0AHow high will it go?=0AFrost bite m= ight be the limiting factor?=0A=0A=0A=0A--=0AFor archives and unsub http://= mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --1173436188-1449702076-1392402329=:79823 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Some margi= n (between IAS and L/D max IAS) is definitely helpful.  Flying th= rough some mountain wave at 16.5k, the autopilot held altitude constant, bu= t the airspeed would slowly cycle between 120 and 160 KIAS.  &nbs= p;

Chris Zavatson=
N91CZ
360std


On Friday, February 14, 2014 4:53 AM, Bill Harrels= on <n5zq@verizon.net> wrote:
Angier,

I've had our 320 to FL210 on a few occasions. = It gets up there only if
you're quite light (solo, minimum baggage, lo= w fuel). It's only a practical
altitude if you're catching a big tailwi= nd.  IAS is only around 115-120 so
any turbulence would necessitat= e an immediate descent.  With a 360 you could
get up there a bit e= asier and have a little more airspeed margin.  You
should have eit= her electronic ignition or pressurized mags in addition to
the stuff th= at Greyhawk mentioned.  I guess it all depends on your
definition = of "practical" but in general, I'd say that FL180 would be about
the hi= ghest practical altitude for a 320/360 on most occasions.

Bill Harre= lson
N6ZQ IV 500 hrs



-----Original Message-----

W= hat is the practical service ceiling with a 180hp IO360?
Years ago I was told you are there when the rate of climb drops to 100ft/min
of = less.
How high will it go?
Frost bite might be the limiting factor?


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