X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 08:36:37 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm12-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.91.105] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTPS id 6705449 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 21:31:44 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.91.105; envelope-from=mcmess1919@yahoo.com Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2014 02:31:10 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.47] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2014 02:31:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jan 2014 02:31:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 750119.53203.bm@smtp115.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 0JP6YaAVM1liL2w5HCVzDlsU0mKU97QJDWSNaogBPeQqDeC ZyYqrtFkH.AfcAylQgad5gdL1TmTfYhv1upAA0geAWHujjq7Amm61AUkzL8x Tc9nIh4o9dMf9Xb3vh4c8BrI9Wft3W67zecgw_kG8eSEc29CoR30Gh4n058. IaQPcUSq_VW7vqF4VWHIpB2ZOJqym1E07K1m8qkkLzo8bPVm9xEurLfsOb3n LofIisZ6JTM8bOjPvFXvYSYAiSfX9a0EiXfDCk_cTCSHIuvp3oTilN2HYIHv g3elTsj8mTt0UKApdTbmu8_FiFenihO_RFZU6Db1Ccuxvp9FqdZpr1cFjhIQ E5ZBnwhNqtFOSbmOD2uWrxaexY1_i9GmzYpwemAEKtAqG__DAq8Pfk5jK24S QSU_42Ui5g.Sgk9tUVAgNbm7D9PKnuwOuLUBZuHfJnYcT_xdIvqmuvI6nmel F6_WIFgMCRE8iMBO3zECrbBE1wgznsJDY0OIrZ8uLpU8ogZ0nYbBuBjd1fSm 7FoCdxn.O1EGomJrevUJvzak6gh50x3L4_7VQ.amWkkb.GSpWwTcA3hM- X-Yahoo-SMTP: rK4i7HqswBC7mDE8.sOiWQeO4CeReXc- X-Rocket-Received: from StevePC (mcmess1919@64.134.236.13 with plain [98.138.105.21]) by smtp115.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Jan 2014 18:31:10 -0800 PST From: "Steve Colwell" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: Lancair 235 info X-Original-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 18:31:15 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: <004e01cf1bd1$05e6a470$11b3ed50$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004F_01CF1B8D.F7C36470" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac8bz2okxYjRoUduT0WGczACFfa2NAAAY3Mg Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01CF1B8D.F7C36470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 From: ergo@ipa.net [mailto:ergo@ipa.net]=20 Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 6:20 PM To: Steve Colwell Subject: Re: FW: Lancair 235 info =20 Yes, Everyone has pretty well been on the same page. Made up my mind = yesterday to keep the arrow and the Christavia. Thanks for everyone's time! David -----Original Message-----=20 From: Steve Colwell=20 Sent: Jan 27, 2014 7:45 PM=20 To: ergo@ipa.net=20 Subject: FW: Lancair 235 info=20 From: GT Phantom [mailto:gt_phantom@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 2:26 PM To: Steve; lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: Lancair 235 info 2000' grass strip in a stock 235 is a Darwin Award waiting to happen. = I'm not shy, flew F-4Es for years, also flew grass strips in an OV-10. = Why not just give me your 235 instead, rather than wrecking it? If it has a C/S prop and bigger engine, maybe - but I still wouldn't = have landed on grass with those tiny wheels except in an emergency. All of that said, there are those who routinely fly 320/360s out of = grass strips and I haven't heard of them causing a wreck - yet. If you want to fly on short grass strips, get an RV tail dragger. Same = cruise performance and more useful load, just a bit higher gas burn. My 2 cents worth, others may disagree. Blue skies, Bill On 1/26/2014 11:27 AM, Steve wrote: David, I will post your question on the Lancair Mailing List for input from = L235 owners who may have experience with grass strips. My opinion is 2000' is too short even for a paved strip and grass would = be too hard on the landing gear. Let's see what the 235 guys have to = say. Steve Colwell Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:29 AM, Claudette wrote: Answer him pls. Can't really operate that small gear on grass can u Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From:=20 Date: January 25, 2014 at 10:57:16 AM CST To: c.colwell@lancairowners.com Subject: Lancair info Reply-To: ergo@ipa.net Mr. Colwell, I have very recently considered a Lancair 235. I am in Arkansas and live = on a 2000 ft grass airstrip. I don't really know anyone with a lancair = near me. I live near RUE to the north on Landers Loop Private. I have = looked online and don't really see much on performance and = durability/safety. I would like to visit with someone that would have = legitimate knowledge to give me some advice. I appreciate any help you = may be able to lend! Thanks, David Wilbanks 479 857-0961.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01CF1B8D.F7C36470 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

 

From:= = ergo@ipa.net [mailto:ergo@ipa.net]
Sent: Monday, January 27, = 2014 6:20 PM
To: Steve Colwell
Subject: Re: FW: = Lancair 235 info

 

Y= es,

E= veryone has pretty well been on the same page.  Made up my mind = yesterday to keep the arrow and the = Christavia.

T= hanks for everyone's time!

D= avid

-= ----Original Message-----
From: Steve Colwell
Sent: Jan 27, 2014 = 7:45 PM
To: ergo@ipa.net =
Subject: FW: Lancair 235 info





From: GT = Phantom [mailto:gt_phantom@hotmail.com]=
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 2:26 PM
To: Steve; lml@lancaironline.net
Subjec= t: Re: Lancair 235 info



2000' grass strip in a stock 235 = is a Darwin Award waiting to happen. I'm not shy, flew F-4Es for years, = also flew grass strips in an OV-10. Why not just give me your 235 = instead, rather than wrecking it?

If it has a C/S prop and bigger = engine, maybe - but I still wouldn't have landed on grass with those = tiny wheels except in an emergency.

All of that said, there are = those who routinely fly 320/360s out of grass strips and I haven't heard = of them causing a wreck - yet.

If you want to fly on short grass = strips, get an RV tail dragger. Same cruise performance and more useful = load, just a bit higher gas burn.

My 2 cents worth, others may = disagree.

Blue skies,

Bill



On 1/26/2014 = 11:27 AM, Steve wrote:

David,

I will post your question on = the Lancair Mailing List for input from L235 owners who may have = experience with grass strips.

My opinion is 2000' is too short = even for a paved strip and grass would be too hard on the landing gear. = Let's see what the 235 guys have to say.

Steve = Colwell

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:29 = AM, Claudette wrote:

Answer him pls. Can't really operate that = small gear on grass can u



Sent from my = iPhone


Begin forwarded message:

From:
Date: = January 25, 2014 at 10:57:16 AM CST
To: c.colwell@lancairowners.com
Subject: Lancair info
Reply-To: ergo@ipa.net

Mr. = Colwell,

I have very recently considered a Lancair 235. I am in = Arkansas and live on a 2000 ft grass airstrip. I don't really know = anyone with a lancair near me. I live near RUE to the north on Landers = Loop Private. I have looked online and don't really see much on = performance and durability/safety. I would like to visit with someone = that would have legitimate knowledge to give me some advice. I = appreciate any help you may be able to lend!

Thanks,
David = Wilbanks
479 857-0961. =


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