X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:44:08 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [63.230.26.161] (HELO exchange.arilabs.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTPS id 6704422 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:49:45 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=63.230.26.161; envelope-from=kevin@arilabs.net Received: from exchange.arilabs.net ([10.100.100.1]) by exchange.arilabs.net ([10.100.100.1]) with mapi; Mon, 27 Jan 2014 08:49:08 -0700 From: Kevin Stallard X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 08:49:07 -0700 Subject: RE: [LML] Re: LOBO eNews -- January 2014 Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: LOBO eNews -- January 2014 Thread-Index: Ac8bclVQkURGesjsTsSiuO/K92bKsgAA64MS X-Original-Message-ID: <779FE3D761D7B741813E300858A248CFF3BD557441@exchange.arilabs.net> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi Bill, If I may respectfully (emphasis on respectfully) disagree. It wasn't .the controller that put the plane in a bank and pulled up. Was= the controller confusing? Yep, no doubt. I have to honestly say that a= s soon as I heard 'no' and something about extending the downwind, I would = have had the inclination of turning left as well. =20 I would say that part of the confusion was from the pilot not following dir= ections in the first place. If he had been on downwind as the controller w= as expecting him too...what would have happened? Who knows... In any case, the final analysis is that the pilot did something with his a= irplane that caused it to spin. =20 Real sad..... Kevin =20 ________________________________________ From: Lancair Mailing List [lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Bill Bradbu= rry [bbradburry@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 8:11 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: LOBO eNews -- January 2014 The lesson here is who is going to be at fault when an accident occurs. Th= e controller cleared the Cirrus to land. He didn=92t clear him number two = after the other Cirrus. He also cleared him to land long, so it was perfec= tly logical for the pilot to turn base immediately. Sure, he would probabl= y have lived if he had turned right and landed long and the other Cirrus ha= d landed on the numbers, but he didn=92t have the other plane in sight and = didn=92t know where he was so he tried to climb and turn away from the airp= ort and in his panic, did so too aggressively. The controller was the total cause of the accident but everything in the pi= ece turns it back to the pilot. Just keep in mind that your pilot license is in the hands of the controller= , but your LIFE is in YOUR hands! Bill