Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #69073
From: Bill Harrelson <n5zq@verizon.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Lancair 235 info
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:21:37 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Hello David,
 
You are demonstrating very good judgment in seeking advice from knowledgeable folks in the Lancair community before committing to a purchase. I’ll will try to give you my best advice. By way of background, I have about 2,200 hours in Lancair 320/360 and 235 airplanes (mostly 320). Another 550 in Lancair IVs and somewhere north of 27,000 total time.
 
The 235 is a great little airplane, fast, efficient and economical. It is not, however, a bush plane by any stretch. It is possible that a 235 can be landed safely on a smooth, firm, long, dry (preferably rolled) sod runway IF proper soft field techniques are used.  It is possible that a 235 can be landed safely in 2,000 ft  IF proper short field techniques are used.  Both soft and short field techniques are skills that are best acquired after you have gained considerable experience in this plane on long, hard surfaced runways.  Combining soft and short field techniques with a new Lancair pilot is a scenario that has a very, very high likelihood of a bad outcome.
 
As those on the Lancair Mail List have heard me say many times; these airplanes are not difficult to fly...but they are different. It is a good bet that the 235 flies considerably differently than ANY other airplane you may have flown. It requires...demands, Lancair specific training with a Lancair proficient instructor. Gaining Lancair experience at Landers Loop airport would be an ill advised undertaking. One of the biggest problems that I see is that the runway is not only too rough and too short but it is way too narrow. The pine tree branches on opposite sides of the runway are only 100 ft apart at some spots and the two hangars on opposite sides of the runway near the northeast end are only 120 ft apart. Due to the semi reclined seating position and the fact that in the 235 your eyes are almost half way back the fuselage from the nose, the runway ahead is NOT visible during a properly done soft field take off OR landing (nose high ground roll). Forward visibility in this situation can only be obtained looking left of the nose. David, I believe that the probability of mixing fiberglass with pine splinters at your field looks quite high in a Lancair. Frankly, it is not a field that I would be comfortable operating a 235 from.
 
I hate to discourage anyone from experiencing a Lancair. They really are exceptional aircraft. But in your particular environment, I would have to advise that it seems unlikely to prove a safe operation. I hope that this helps in your decision. Please feel free to call me at (five four zero) 372-8738 if I can be of further assistance.
 
Regards,
 
 
Bill Harrelson
Fredericksburg, VA
 
 
 
 
Landers Loop airport:      Google Earth.    N35   23’   56.07”             W093     04’      04.71”
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
David,
I will post your question on the Lancair Mailing List for input from L235 owners who may have experience with grass strips.
My opinion is 2000' is too short even for a paved strip and grass would be too hard on the landing gear.  Let's see what the 235 guys have to say.
Steve Colwell

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On Jan 26, 2014, at 5:29 AM, Claudette <colwell.ch@gmail.com> wrote:

Answer him pls.  Can't really operate that small gear on grass can u


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From: <ergo@ipa.net>
Date: January 25, 2014 at 10:57:16 AM CST
To: c.colwell@lancairowners.com
Subject: Lancair info
Reply-To: ergo@ipa.net

Mr. Colwell,

I have very recently considered a Lancair 235.  I am in Arkansas and live on a 2000 ft grass airstrip.  I don't really know anyone with a lancair near me. I live near RUE to the north on Landers Loop Private.  I have looked online and don't really see much on performance and durability/safety.  I would like to visit with someone that would have legitimate knowledge to give me some advice.  I appreciate any help you may be able to lend!

Thanks,
David Wilbanks
479 857-0961.  
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