X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 10:07:46 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm22-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.91.210] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with SMTP id 6660940 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 28 Dec 2013 19:44:33 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.91.210; envelope-from=dudewanarace@yahoo.com Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm22.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2013 00:44:00 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.162] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2013 00:44:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1073.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Dec 2013 00:44:00 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 405480.73747.bm@omp1073.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 34949 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Dec 2013 00:44:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cy3hdW//ONzhJZ4WQr0pbi/qpRGK/3OxrTlkbOOJtIwWQvDKTk2rLjbdyCY3ot5sDLaNOXZ+DicETEcaLlCCYg1znqNR5NKI3fu+CdGD12kmTieaxrPCm3iTnxUXJrC/TptVA0KBGRkSkgamZV72JDI9YgNcc9yVR5Iz10NdREM=; X-YMail-OSG: MclZ.SwVM1lTIbWpM.VBQpgY5dDgMyNAd2iGuFCS1zI.0AV u8BYvVLhh.VsU6S99qXGklwCu._i8gJFwI5WgMBaIGHI1ebuD0hjWm_4CYWL T1QIKhLi97UI7zttDaOni.Hy9cqDvRKwoIoMVwylujAAL2GuMp9Efl5WzSTG 8WyFGdI9KZ87M7.XQXp8MyCQAYSJb34KCR7aVIJ3Br5YTBuJ.dKA413LaCG_ SrWeTTIQUm7F7WOZC31o1t4hBCZkB1BuWFizMQFD5tR5wSok.emyjK7881k4 teuO2io3KADRgjslZhnGWcwXjPnhIuyDeL_nNx6N5YxKADDHIlh.q.DLGGDR eoo5v0oHwIdWjsvcIvsO3R5dpqew_GKBO6GsoASnbr3l593aVxAeqmA2J9YK vCAHNxVwTS2.LTIem4YekSSGDqH2PiE8286MIPuCJRFqR..p7v.qZw6NGkP0 SXYVgWOOLWMQwXWUoRSBKR7GMObsIyK4PbrJGEOcgsBOtGtNMKSdg.0Ps9sJ v.WeRhe7xHB1WWLN2KdVRbQAWyKOHohs6JOWWm8p2fochOSu44SCjdttRftf OY1rpBTpZu21JV8JkSYFm1Fw9HDXXlJIlwGgOXBUhaIkDkLH5XJ6Z4.vAuWi 2hPGNekaRRYPqiXoE32P9F235ZERcXvBmBA8Y3FkVK8me3kD6xjEDy1lZaWF HupRalWzfaZ3U2Missn1TF87ZHm9gj3VJuT9C5dK5qXHVHizlV232GkQbE.B WFictIfa0fqJa7keQXa3zKKHK Received: from [24.2.15.88] by web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 28 Dec 2013 16:44:00 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,Q2hyaXMsCkNvcnJlY3QgSSBoYWQgMiBjYW1lcmFzIHJ1bm5pbmcgZm9yIHRoZSBiaWcgZmx5b3Zlci4gwqBUaGUgb3JpZ2luYWwgTkZsaWdodENhbSB0aGF0IGlzIGFjdHVhbGx5IGEgQ29udG91ciArIHdpdGggYSBuZXV0cmFsIGRlbnNpdHkgZmlsdGVyIG9uIGl0LiDCoFRoZSBmaWx0ZXIgc2xvd3MgdGhlIHNodXR0ZXIgc3BlZWQgZXNzZW50aWFsbHkgYW5kIHRoZSBwcm9wIG5lYXJseSB2YW5pc2hlcyBpbiB0aGUgdmlkZW8uIMKgSXQgd291bGQgYmUgZWFzeSB0byBhZGFwdCBtb3N0IEhEIGNhbWVyYXMgdGgBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.172.614 X-Original-Message-ID: <1388277840.59295.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2013 16:44:00 -0800 (PST) From: dudewanarace@yahoo.com Reply-To: dudewanarace@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Gopro camera mount options X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="653734908-1258458892-1388277840=:59295" --653734908-1258458892-1388277840=:59295 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Chris,=0ACorrect I had 2 cameras running for the big flyover. =A0The origin= al NFlightCam that is actually a Contour + with a neutral density filter on= it. =A0The filter slows the shutter speed essentially and the prop nearly = vanishes in the video. =A0It would be easy to adapt most HD cameras this wa= y. =A0So after Contour ran in to trouble, the NFlightCam guys jumped ship a= nd started making the filter for the GoPro. =A0Understandable..=0A=0ASo, th= e second camera that you see stuck to the canopy is the newer Contour +2. = =A0The bad thing about using those suction cup mounts is that it puts the c= amera on a relatively long moment arm, so any vibration is amplified. =A0In= the end, that video didn't turn out well mainly because I didn't aim the c= amera very well. =A0The vibration could be removed in the editing process, = but, the helmet cam video was good enough I think.=0A=0AThis short clip is = form Reno this year. =A0Contour + with filter on my helmet, Contour +2 on t= he dash facing right. =A0No post processing on either clips. =A0Notice the = color difference. I think part of that problem was the dash cam facing the = sun. =A0I have been correcting that color in my later clips. =A0On the helm= et, no prop issues at all. =A0Very cool! =A0Be sure to switch to HD=0Ahttp:= //youtu.be/iegd6ylVHI4=0A=0AThat is Dave Morss giving me a run for my money= in his Legacy to pylon inner 4.=0A=0AShould have a full Reno video done so= on. =A0Lots of cool shots!=0ATom McNerney=0Ahttp://www.N54SG.com=0A=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0AHow well does each camera handle propeller blur?=0AWere there two = Contours in your plane, Tom?=A0 One moving with your head and one on=A0the = canopy?=0A=0AChris Zavatson=0AN91CZ=0A360std=0Ahttp://www.n91cz.net/=0A=0A= =0A=0A=0AOn Friday, December 27, 2013 1:23 PM, Gary Edwards wrote:=0A=0AEverything Tom says.=A0=0A=A0=0AI too have the newest C= ontour +2 and feel it is a great camera.=A0 I have a multitude of mounts fo= r it.=A0 It comes with the threaded hole for a tripod etc. as well as chann= els on both sides of the camera to mount it in nearly endless configuration= s with their associated mounts.=A0 A motorcycle friend would give up on his= GoPro mounted on the side of his helmet after a few hours of riding, as th= e wind pressure on the large frontal surface of it would make his neck sore= .=A0 I don't have that issue with the Contour.=A0 I am sure=A0the airplane = doesn't care which camera is mounted on it.=A0 They are all fun to use.=0A= =A0=0AGary Edwards=0ALNC2=0A----- Original Message -----=0A>From:=A0dudewan= arace@yahoo.com=0A>To:=A0lml@lancaironline.net=0A>Sent:=A0Friday, December = 27, 2013 12:55 PM=0A>Subject:=A0[LML] Gopro camera mount options=0A>=0A>=0A= >Actually, there is still hope for Contour cameras, news from the source:= =0A>http://contour.com/=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>This is great in my opinion. =A0I cu= rrently run the Contour +2, the newest of the cameras. =A0In my opinion the= Contour is such a better camera than a GoPro. =A0(not to offend anyone tha= t has them..)=0A>=0A>=0A>The Contour lens rotates so you can mount it anywa= y you want and still shoot 'level'.=0A>It is slim in the direction it is fi= lming. =A0Great for helmet cam.=0A>Bluetooth to your phone to preview your = shot, remote start/stop, adjust recording settings, etc..=0A>Built in GPS t= hat you can do just about anything with. Speed, altitude, distance, etc..= =0A>Audio jack to plug in cockpit communication.=0A>Big on/off button can b= e run with gloves. =A0Easy to tell if it is on or off. =A0Also you don't ha= ve turn it on, just slide the record button and it turns on and starts reco= rding.=0A>=0A>=0A>Anyway, I sound like a sales guy.. =A0I just hate it when= a product with less quality bullies the underdog (with a better product) o= ut of the market with epic tons of money.=0A>=0A>=0A>This was the last vide= o I shot with Contour cameras, 49 airplane NFL flyover:=0A>http://youtu.be/= G_p-R2i13HU=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>Still working on my Reno video..=0A>Tom=0A>http:= //www.n54sg.com/=A0 --653734908-1258458892-1388277840=:59295 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Chris,
Correct I had 2 cameras running for= the big flyover.  The original NFlightCam that is actually a Contour = + with a neutral density filter on it.  The filter slows the shutter s= peed essentially and the prop nearly vanishes in the video.  It would = be easy to adapt most HD cameras this way.  So after Contour ran in to= trouble, the NFlightCam guys jumped ship and started making the filter for the GoPro. &= nbsp;Understandable..

So, = the second camera that you see stuck to the canopy is the newer Contour +2.=  The bad thing about using those suction cup mounts is that it puts t= he camera on a relatively long moment arm, so any vibration is amplified. &= nbsp;In the end, that video didn't turn out well mainly because I didn't ai= m the camera very well.  The vibration could be removed in the editing= process, but, the helmet cam video was good enough I think.

That is Dave Morss giving me a run = for my money in his Legacy to pylon inner 4.

Should have a full Reno video done soon.  Lots of cool shots!
Tom McNerney
http://www.N54SG.co= m



=

How well does each camera handl= e propeller blur?
Were there two Contours in your plane, Tom?&nb= sp; One moving with your head and one on the canopy?

Chris Zavatson
N91C= Z
360std



On Friday, December 27, 2013 1:23 PM, Gary Edward= s <gary21sn@hotmail.com> wrote:
Everything Tom says. 
 
I too have the newest Contour +2 and feel it is a great= camera.  I have a multitude of mounts for it.  It comes with the= threaded hole for a tripod etc. as well as channels on both sides of the c= amera to mount it in nearly endless configurations with their associated mo= unts.  A motorcycle friend would give up on his GoPro mounted on the side of his he= lmet after a few hours of riding, as the wind pressure on the large frontal= surface of it would make his neck sore.  I don't have that issue with= the Contour.  I am sure the airplane doesn't care which camera i= s mounted on it.  They are all fun to use.
 
= Gary Edwards
LNC2
----- Original Message= -----
Sent= : Friday, December 27, 2013 12:55 PM
Subject: [LML] Gopro camera mount o= ptions

Actually, t= here is still hope for Contour cameras, news from the source:
This is great in my op= inion.  I currently run the Contour +2, the newest of the cameras. &nb= sp;In my opinion the Contour is such a better camera than a GoPro.  (n= ot to offend anyone that has them..)

The Co= ntour lens rotates so you can mount it anyway you want and still shoot 'lev= el'.
It is slim in the d= irection it is filming.  Great for helmet cam.
Bluetooth to your phone to preview your shot, remote start/s= top, adjust recording settings, etc..
Built in GPS that you can do just about anything with. Speed,= altitude, distance, etc..
Audio jack to plug in cockpit communication.
Big on/off button can be run with gloves.  Eas= y to tell if it is on or off.  Also you don't have turn it on, just sl= ide the record button and it turns on and starts recording.

Anyway, I sound like a sales guy..  I just hate it wh= en a product with less quality bullies the underdog (with a better product)= out of the market with epic tons of money.

This was the last video I shot with Contour cameras, 49 airplane NFL flyover:
<= br>
Still working on my = Reno video..
Tom
http://www.n54sg.com/