X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 21:11:47 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.109.203] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6649861 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 20:17:05 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.109.203; envelope-from=vtailjeff@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-mab01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mab01.mx.aol.com [172.26.249.83]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5B3477000411D for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 20:16:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mnb002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mnb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.106.133]) by mtaomg-mab01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1DB5138000081 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 20:16:29 -0500 (EST) References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: 1992 "HOW TO KILL YOURSELF IN A HOMEBUILT" In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8D0CD93BDE93331_1880_CEA38_webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 38236-STANDARD Received: from 24.107.98.233 by webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com (64.12.225.54) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 22 Dec 2013 20:16:28 -0500 X-Original-Message-Id: <8D0CD93BDDFADAD-1880-33FC1@webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [24.107.98.233] X-Original-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 20:16:29 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1af95352b78eed24e9 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8D0CD93BDE93331_1880_CEA38_webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" John, You hit on a good point. You should have respect for the hazards that can b= ite you -- but fear? No. If you are properly prepared with the right traini= ng and aircraft preparation everything should go reasonably well. I know yo= u were at Greeneville. Did you meet Jay Elliot there? He is retired Marine = aviator and military test pilot. He is currently a LOBO CFI, flies a 320 an= d lives near Charleston , SC. I am sure he can help you get ready for first= flight. Did you attend Bob Pastusek's seminar on preparing for your first= flight at the Greenville fly-in? If you have any questions we are standing= by to assist. Merry Christmas, Jeff Edwards -----Original Message----- From: John Cooper To: lml Sent: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:59 pm Subject: [LML] Re: 1992 "HOW TO KILL YOURSELF IN A HOMEBUILT" Peter-- With all due respect, since I know you've been flying Lancairs for a=20 long time, do you think that those of us who haven't flown yet really=20 want to hear how the Lancair is a dangerous plane and chances are good=20 that we're going to die on our first flight - or most certainly by the=20 second one? I understand that your intention in posting that Falco piece=20 was to prod people into getting some flight time in a similar aircraft=20 before launching off, but I'm really getting sick of people telling me=20 I'm going to die soon. I've built the best plane I knew how and fully=20 intend to get some stick time in a 360 before I fly mine. What I could=20 use right now, though, is a little moral support. From my 6 hours at the=20 controls of Clarence Grubbs 69CG, the 235 is a sweet flying plane and=20 not dangerous at all if one respects the differences from a C-172. But=20 it seems that all I get more experienced pilots is FUD [Fear,=20 Uncertainty, and Doubt]. Several months ago I attended an EAA meeting at=20 Asheville, NC, and it was the same with those guys (mostly spam-can RV=20 builders). I went there for some support, and all I got was FUD. I=20 haven't been back since. /rant -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html =20 ----------MB_8D0CD93BDE93331_1880_CEA38_webmailstg-m02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
John,
 
You hit on a good point. You should have respect for the hazards that = can bite you -- but fear? No. If you are properly prepared with the right t= raining and aircraft preparation everything should go reasonably well. I kn= ow you were at Greeneville. Did you meet Jay Elliot there? He is retired Ma= rine aviator and military test pilot. He is currently a LOBO CFI, flies a 3= 20 and lives near Charleston , SC. I am sure he can help you get = ready for first flight.  Did you attend Bob Pastusek's seminar on prep= aring for your first flight at the Greenville fly-in? If you have any quest= ions we are standing by to assist.
 
Merry Christmas,
 
Jeff Edwards
-----Original Message-----
From: John Cooper <snopercod@comporium.net>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sun, Dec 22, 2013 4:59 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: 1992 "HOW TO KILL YOURSELF IN A HOMEBUILT"

Peter--

With all due respect, since I know you've been flying Lancairs for a=20
long time, do you think that those of us who haven't flown yet really=20
want to hear how the Lancair is a dangerous plane and chances are good=20
that we're going to die on our first flight - or most certainly by the=20
second one? I understand that your intention in posting that Falco piece=20
was to prod people into getting some flight time in a similar aircraft=20
before launching off, but I'm really getting sick of people telling me=20
I'm going to die soon. I've built the best plane I knew how and fully=20
intend to get some stick time in a 360 before I fly mine. What I could=20
use right now, though, is a little moral support. From my 6 hours at the=20
controls of Clarence Grubbs 69CG, the 235 is a sweet flying plane and=20
not dangerous at all if one respects the differences from a C-172. But=20
it seems that all I get more experienced pilots is FUD [Fear,=20
Uncertainty, and Doubt]. Several months ago I attended an EAA meeting at=20
Asheville, NC, and it was the same with those guys (mostly spam-can RV=20
builders). I went there for some support, and all I got was FUD. I=20
haven't been back since.

/rant


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