X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 08:42:59 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from col0-omc3-s18.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.157] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6649021 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 22:34:37 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.34.157; envelope-from=peterpawaviation@hotmail.com Received: from COL129-W63 ([65.55.34.135]) by col0-omc3-s18.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 21 Dec 2013 19:34:02 -0800 X-TMN: [NslWDGuEGbVpR9ghH51dI3cO89rg3z1q] X-Originating-Email: [peterpawaviation@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: peterpawaviation@hotmail.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_00970d02-2eae-4a15-a75a-9fe4193d8db1_" From: PETER WILLIAMS X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: RE: [LML] Does anyone have knowledge of IV-P N845CM? X-Original-Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 22:34:02 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Dec 2013 03:34:02.0572 (UTC) FILETIME=[A89638C0:01CEFEC6] --_00970d02-2eae-4a15-a75a-9fe4193d8db1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI THERE About 18 months i tried to buy N845CM. the broker was Optisky=2C and in per= son Ken Gedney. I believe that there is now a different broker trying to sell the aircraft. it was owned by a Doctor (dermatologist ??) in Tulsa. he owned for at least= six years. ultimately he went to a Cessna 421 because i believe he is over= six feet tall and it was a tight fit in the Lancair. he was instructed early on by Rudy Haug. Ken Gedney was the broker. I met Ken when i bought a Cessna 210 as a backup= airplane. at that time ken was listing N845CM at about $215K=3B i offered = to trade my Cessna 340A for the Lancair. Ken said that he would not tender = the offer to trade. He said to me "why should i? i have an exclusive and i = sell the owner his insurance" i also offered $175k at that time.=20 in the course of the purchase of the Cessna it got a little unpleasant deal= ing with ken. i mention that part because of the sale of N845CM. the present owner paid about $175k=2C i do not know exactly but in that ran= ge. he is a 500 hour pilot and i do not believe that he has a lot (or any) = complex time. Ken told this low time pilot that insurance would be no probl= em=2C easy. So this person bought the airplane=2C figuring that since insur= ance was easy/no problem=2C he would worry about it later. the present owner then discovered that he could not get the insurance cover= age he needed to fly the airplane=3B he contacted several LOBO instructors = and was not able to get the training he would need to qualify for insurance= . i believe that he never flew that airplane and it may still be on the ramp = at Optisky. WHERE you will find Ken Gedney the only other thing that i know is that the air conditioner flows weakly= =2C or did. nothing i know about N845CM would indicate that it is a bad airplane=2C i j= ust do not know peter To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat=2C 21 Dec 2013 10:58:53 -0500 From: skinner3410@sbcglobal.net Subject: [LML] Does anyone have knowledge of IV-P N845CM? I am trying to get to Texas to see 845CM with the intent to purchase it if = it looks OK. If anyone knows about the plane=2C the builder (David Euzarra= ga) or the previous owners=2C I would appreciate any information you have. = =0A= =0A= Thanks in advance=2C=0A= Dave Skinner=0A= 309-269-9168 (cell) = --_00970d02-2eae-4a15-a75a-9fe4193d8db1_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
HI THERE

About 18 months i tried to buy N845CM. the broker was Optisky= =2C and in person Ken Gedney.
=
I believe that there is n= ow a different broker trying to sell the aircraft.

= it was owned by a Doctor (der= matologist ??) in Tulsa. he owned for at least six years. ultimately he wen= t to a Cessna 421 because i believe he is over six feet tall and it was a t= ight fit in the Lancai= r.
he was instructed early on by Rudy Hau= g.


Ken Gedney was the broker. I met Ken when i bought a Cessna= 210 as a backup airplane. at that time ken was listing N845CM at about $21= 5K=3B i offered to trade my Cessna 340A for the Lancair. Ken said that he w= ould not tender the offer to trade. He said to me "why should i? i have an = exclusive and i sell the owner his insurance" i also offered $175k at that = time.

in the course of the purchase of the Cessna it got a little u= npleasant dealing with ken.

i mention that part because of the sale = of N845CM.
the present owner paid about $175k=2C i do not know exactly b= ut in that range. he is a 500 hour pilot and i do not believe that he has a= lot (or any) complex time. Ken told this low time pilot that insurance wou= ld be no problem=2C easy. So this person bought the airplane=2C figuring th= at since insurance was easy/no problem=2C he would worry about it later.
the present owner then discovered that he could not get the insurance = coverage he needed to fly the airplane=3B he contacted several LOBO instruc= tors and was not able to get the training he would need to qualify for insu= rance.

i believe that he never flew that airplane and it may still b= e on the ramp at Optisky. WHERE you will find Ken Gedney
=
the only other thing = that i know is that the air conditioner flows weakly=2C or did.

noth= ing i know about N845CM would indicate that it is a bad airplane=2C i just = do not know

peter
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Date: Sat=2C 21 Dec 2013 10:58:53 -0500
= From: skinner3410@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [LML] Does anyone have knowledg= e of IV-P N845CM?

I am trying to get to Texas to see 845CM with the in= tent to purchase it if it looks OK. =3B If anyone knows about the plane= =2C the builder (David Euzarraga) or the previous owners=2C I would appreci= ate any information you have. =3B =3B
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 =3B
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Thanks in advance=2C
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Dave Skinner
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309-269-9168 (cell)
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