X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:52:22 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.66] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6647323 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:33:09 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.66; envelope-from=douglasbrunner@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ehvBZyCfwK7n7tOkJFqelx5I+v6LH81dzlNtLACibTHNksnSGWg++itUml5Icrpp; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.25] (helo=mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Vu3w8-0007ry-VF for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:32:32 -0500 Received: from 64.47.173.2 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:32:32 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <4627102.1387560752960.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> X-Original-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 12:32:32 -0500 (EST) From: Douglas Brunner Reply-To: Douglas Brunner X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Fwd: Operation Mission Creep Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: ad85a799c4f5de37c2eb1477c196d22294f5150ab1c16ac0eab4a5d23dc2aa85d8e9b142467ccc9feaee99bd0d2230b6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.25 I got that point.= I am not in favor of surveillance without probable cause.

And the effectiveness of the= "War on Drugs" is of course another interesting topic. Based on the = street price of many drugs, our efforts don't seem to be denting the supply= . And if a guy wants to smoke some dope, I don't favor throwing him i= n jail at a cost of $40,000 + per year year to the taxpayers.=

Just trying to inject som= e levity into the situation.

D. Brunner

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Uh, not to miss the point - the DHS, like the NSA and telephones, = ;is=20 monitoring every flight - without any basis more than suspicion of a f= uture=20 crime. Hey, it's a free country and even the DHS can fly wherever it = wants=20 - even if that means following you.

Just think of all the LSA cross-country flights that are suspicio= us -=20 flying low and stopping at "small" airports.

Grayhawk

In a message dated 12/20/2013 10:54:35 A.M. Central Standard Time,=20 douglasbrunner@earthlink.net writes:

Yeah, we could probably=20 have gotten more than that just following around Willie Nelson's tour bus= =20 ;-)

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From: Ron Laughlin
Sent: De= c 20,=20 2013 9:53 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Fwd:= =20 Operation Mission Creep

Yeah, I think the DHS folks are bored and don't really= have=20 anything better to do....=20

And BTW, I wonder how many millions (billions?) of dollars did we = have=20 to borrow from China to capture this guy and his 250 lbs of=20 marijuana?

Ron

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Mark Slette= n <mwsletten@gmail.com> wrote:

DHS is no longer dissembling about the fact it is in t= he drug=20 law enforcement business.

http://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/Pilot-Arrested-After-DHS-S= urveillance221141-1.html

--Mark

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