Posted for "Bill Bradburry" <bbradburry@bellsouth.net>:

> Marv,
>
>
>
> Do you want me to check and see if the folks who set up the ObamaCare
> website are available to help you??
>
>
>
> B2
>

[I think I'll pass... we don't have enough Founders or Supporters to fund that sort of debacle. Besides, if I were to allow the new face of the LML to get that screwed up I'd be pissing away almost 16 years of good will. No thanks. <M> ]

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>
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>From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of
> marv@lancair.net
> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 8:47 AM
> To: lml
> Subject: [LML] Re: Fw: [LML] The next level
>
>
>
> Posted for "Tom & Beth Sullivan" <toms1@chartermi.net>:
>
>> Marv,
>>
>> I've been with you since the late 90's too, so would only be appropriate
> to
>>be a founder as well.
>>
>> I assume you will let us know when you are ready to start.
>>
>> Tom Sullivan
>
> [We are working feverishly on getting the new site setup and ready for prime
> time.  Needless to say, this is not the kind of thing that happens at the
> snap of one's fingers, as it's a complete change in format that demands
> planning, implementation and testing, and we want it to be right so the
> changeover goes as smoothly as possible.  Once we've got the basics in place
> we'll be asking for volunteers from our Founders pool to assist with testing
> and to provide additional input regarding organization in an attempt to make
> finding what you're after more intuitive and productive. Amazingly, there
> are in excess of 80,000 messages in the LML archives, and we obviously won't
> be able to reassign them all to their appropriate locations on the forum at
> once, but once the site is active we'll have them all available and
> hopefully, with the help of the membership, we'll come up with a way to get
> most of them into some semblance of order over some reasonable timespan.
>
> So... until then the LML is going to continue operating as it always has and
> we'll let everyone know when the time is right to fling wide the doors of
> our new home and move over to the next generation of the LML.
>
>  <marv>    ]
>
>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>From: Jim Scales
>> To: Lancair Mailing List
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [LML] The next level
>>
>>
>> Marv,
>>
>>
>> I have participated in/on LML since before my plane was flown in 1999.
> Great
>>resource with tremendous benefit. I apologize for not supporting you the
> way
>>I should have in the past. Unfortunately time gets away and some things
> don't
>>get the attention they deserve.
>>
>>
>> I would like to be one of the founders you described for the "Next Level"
>>phase.
>>
>>
>> Please let me know how/where to send the donation. And thanks again for
> what
>>you have done and what you and others intend to do in the future.
>>
>>
>> What a great community!
>>
>>
>> Jim Scales
>> Angels Playmate
>> N98AF
>>
>> On Dec 16, 2013, at 9:00 PM, <marv@lancair.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  Dear LML'ers:
>>
>>
>>  I'm a little late getting this out but the recent talk about supporting
> the
>>list coincides with my plans to improve the way we communicate so I wanted
> to
>>let you know what is underway.
>>
>>
>>  First, let me thank all of you who have supported the LML, other owners
> and
>>prospective owners for so many years.  It is gratifying to have such a
> giving
>>community of people who are willing to share their talents with the many
>>Lancair folks around the world.
>>
>>
>>  Second, this list is many years old, filled with words of wisdom and
> ideas
>>and history that needs to be protected and accessible for future users.
>> Technology has made advances such that pictures, video, PDFs and memory
>>limits are not what they were 10 years ago and "mailing lists" are almost
>>extinct, replaced by blogs and software that allows a higher degree of
>>interaction, detail and information sharing.  I am adopting new technology
> in
>>my business.  I see new turbines, new avionics and the products are all
> more
>>capable and user friendly than what I was working with way back when LML
> was
>>born.  It is time to move the LML forward and, with the continued prodding
>>and support of members, I have a plan that I hope all of you will support.
>>
>>
>>  To accomplish the transformation will require support from a number of
>>people and many have already indicated support through private discussions.
>
>>   The LML has typically required my attention to each message and it is
> now
>>time for me to acknowledge that a better system for users can be
> implemented
>>with the help of the community, leaving me to enjoy the LML and use the
> extra
>>time for my personal and business life.
>>
>>
>>  The plan is to create an LLC where the assets of LML will be placed.  The
>
>>bylaws will keep it true to the LML mission and allow it to grow in a way
>>that I believe is best for all LML'ers.  I will be looking for Founders to
>>provide funding of US$100 each to get things underway.  I will ask for a
> few
>>people to volunteer time to share the duties of moderating content so I can
>
>>free up some of my time and keep things moving no matter where I am.   My
>>intent is allow LML to grow, to have longevity and to cover its own costs
>>going forward.
>>
>>
>>  What will it look like?    I have decided to use a forum-based web
> presence
>>to permit a fast response and much more content and detail.  We rely on
>>visuals today to share a large portion of our work and the site will
>>accommodate that.   I want to improve searches, preserve our historical
>>messages, allow digests to people who want an email of "what's happening"
> and
>>much more.  I will also allow a modest amount of advertising.  It will not
> be
>>the in-your-face Google-style ads that target individuals, but it will be
>>specific to Lancairs, aircraft and the things we use and need every day and
>
>>they will be helpful and peripheral -- not distracting or intrusive.  This
>>change will support the LML in a fair manner.   It will expose owners to
> many
>>new products and it gives suppliers a way to support our group.  I want
>>suppliers who support the LML to have an opportunity to discuss their
>>products and provide direct support to owners.   I also want the site to
> show
>>all the wonderful Lancair projects and let people see these examples so
> that
>>our efforts can be viewed and serve to motivate future builders.
>>
>>
>>  Changes are underway and it will take time.  But, I want you to comment
> on
>>the changes, ask questions, volunteer to fill a position or suggest
> features
>>we don't have.    I'm convinced we can benefit from upgrading our site and
> I
>>know it needs to be done.  I want it to be painless and enjoyable for
>>everyone and I hope I have your support going forward.  Again, thank you
> for
>>trusting me with your time and materials--I hope LML will be better than
>>ever.
>>
>>
>>     <Marv>
>>
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